1 00:00:07,460 --> 00:00:03,880 [Music] 2 00:00:09,020 --> 00:00:07,470 the planets up the masters almost surely 3 00:00:11,270 --> 00:00:09,030 have a plan 4 00:00:15,289 --> 00:00:11,280 this clearly maybe something there 5 00:00:16,390 --> 00:00:15,299 beyond the realm of man already tested 6 00:00:21,189 --> 00:00:16,400 every 7 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:24,920 that's true dr. Zaius 8 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:42,930 [Music] 9 00:00:48,750 --> 00:00:46,450 all right higher side chatters to unlock 10 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:48,760 the deepest levels of the elites mindset 11 00:00:53,160 --> 00:00:51,010 their desires philosophy and secret 12 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:53,170 religion it's not an easy thing to do 13 00:00:57,270 --> 00:00:54,850 sources are scattered sometimes 14 00:00:59,610 --> 00:00:57,280 contradictory and often contain both 15 00:01:02,160 --> 00:00:59,620 esoteric and esoteric meanings that add 16 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:02,170 even more confusion to the mix but it 17 00:01:05,940 --> 00:01:04,090 does seem like their deepest motivations 18 00:01:08,190 --> 00:01:05,950 revolve around goals like jailbreaking 19 00:01:10,590 --> 00:01:08,200 our construct evolving man as they see 20 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:10,600 fit and manifesting an ancient agenda 21 00:01:13,950 --> 00:01:12,130 passed down through long lasting 22 00:01:16,500 --> 00:01:13,960 bloodlines and secret groups behind the 23 00:01:18,450 --> 00:01:16,510 curtain that said occasionally something 24 00:01:20,250 --> 00:01:18,460 Clause out of the zeitgeist to grab the 25 00:01:22,620 --> 00:01:20,260 attention of those seeking these very 26 00:01:24,690 --> 00:01:22,630 answers and one such instance was what's 27 00:01:27,030 --> 00:01:24,700 known as the hidden hand dialogue where 28 00:01:29,370 --> 00:01:27,040 in 2008 a self-described member of the 29 00:01:30,990 --> 00:01:29,380 ruling class appendage of the Lucifer 30 00:01:33,510 --> 00:01:31,000 soul group an associate of an ancient 31 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:33,520 order anonymously arrived at the above 32 00:01:38,190 --> 00:01:35,650 top-secret forum and offered to have an 33 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:38,200 open and honest Q&A as part of a task he 34 00:01:42,780 --> 00:01:40,930 was given by his masters what resulted 35 00:01:44,730 --> 00:01:42,790 was an ear book length back and forth 36 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:44,740 that spanned over five sessions and 37 00:01:48,210 --> 00:01:46,330 introduced some perspectives I've had 38 00:01:50,090 --> 00:01:48,220 rattling around upstairs ever since I 39 00:01:52,290 --> 00:01:50,100 first heard them almost a decade ago 40 00:01:54,150 --> 00:01:52,300 while folks you might remember a higher 41 00:01:56,070 --> 00:01:54,160 side chats episode from earlier in the 42 00:01:58,560 --> 00:01:56,080 year with elite belief system decoder 43 00:02:00,540 --> 00:01:58,570 extraordinaire Michael Joseph where we 44 00:02:02,340 --> 00:02:00,550 explored this secret religion of the 45 00:02:04,410 --> 00:02:02,350 elite and its influence in society 46 00:02:05,969 --> 00:02:04,420 through the lens of Michael's occult 47 00:02:09,660 --> 00:02:05,979 science series on his YouTube channel 48 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:09,670 schism 206 since that time he's added 49 00:02:13,530 --> 00:02:12,010 roughly twenty more hours of content to 50 00:02:16,290 --> 00:02:13,540 the series which is now considered 51 00:02:18,690 --> 00:02:16,300 complete at ninety one video spanning 30 52 00:02:20,010 --> 00:02:18,700 chapters it's one hell of a watch and I 53 00:02:21,510 --> 00:02:20,020 brought them back to talk about some of 54 00:02:23,610 --> 00:02:21,520 these conclusions and see how they 55 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:23,620 compare to that early staple of internet 56 00:02:28,140 --> 00:02:26,050 conspiracy lore the hidden hand dialogue 57 00:02:30,350 --> 00:02:28,150 so let's do the damn thing Michael my 58 00:02:33,180 --> 00:02:30,360 man welcome back to the higher side 59 00:02:35,309 --> 00:02:33,190 thanks Greg good to be here yeah man 60 00:02:37,410 --> 00:02:35,319 this is gonna be great I'm really 61 00:02:39,210 --> 00:02:37,420 psyched I really liked the last one and 62 00:02:41,130 --> 00:02:39,220 of course I wanted to have you back and 63 00:02:43,050 --> 00:02:41,140 so when I was trying to think of 64 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:43,060 creative ways to cover these themes 65 00:02:47,850 --> 00:02:45,490 again we talked about focusing a show on 66 00:02:49,470 --> 00:02:47,860 that hidden hand stuff because some of 67 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:49,480 it resonates with the research you've 68 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:50,610 done and I just thought it would be 69 00:02:53,940 --> 00:02:52,690 different because I don't get to cover a 70 00:02:56,100 --> 00:02:53,950 lot of things that don't come from 71 00:02:58,170 --> 00:02:56,110 someone's latest book but 72 00:03:00,630 --> 00:02:58,180 looking back at it it doesn't seem quite 73 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:00,640 as credible as it did at the time though 74 00:03:03,660 --> 00:03:02,290 it is still intriguing material to 75 00:03:05,910 --> 00:03:03,670 compare and contrast to what you've 76 00:03:08,340 --> 00:03:05,920 researched elsewhere and I guess to get 77 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:08,350 us in the mindset to really lay the base 78 00:03:12,270 --> 00:03:10,210 remind the people about your research 79 00:03:17,730 --> 00:03:12,280 and how you've gone about trying to 80 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:17,740 untangle this esoteric web sure well the 81 00:03:23,100 --> 00:03:21,370 fundamental I guess sources for the 82 00:03:25,470 --> 00:03:23,110 whole occult science series and 83 00:03:28,020 --> 00:03:25,480 everything that I've done is basically 84 00:03:30,660 --> 00:03:28,030 looking at authors like H people of 85 00:03:33,870 --> 00:03:30,670 ASCII and Albert Pike as more of the 86 00:03:37,350 --> 00:03:33,880 primary sources but as the series went 87 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:37,360 on I definitely use Lebowski because 88 00:03:42,210 --> 00:03:39,730 within secret doctrine Isis unveiled 89 00:03:44,100 --> 00:03:42,220 there's you know a couple thousand pages 90 00:03:47,430 --> 00:03:44,110 and there was a lot of stuff there and 91 00:03:49,949 --> 00:03:47,440 then more peripherally or secondary just 92 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:49,959 kind of utilizing writings of Manley 93 00:03:55,830 --> 00:03:52,690 Palmer Hall elephants Libby and Aleister 94 00:03:59,390 --> 00:03:55,840 Crowley and again the whole reason for 95 00:04:03,630 --> 00:03:59,400 that is because the United Nations is 96 00:04:05,310 --> 00:04:03,640 more or less openly following Blavatsky 97 00:04:06,630 --> 00:04:05,320 I mean it's still kind of hidden not a 98 00:04:08,460 --> 00:04:06,640 lot of people know about it but through 99 00:04:09,900 --> 00:04:08,470 the Lucius Trust organization and on 100 00:04:12,420 --> 00:04:09,910 their website which is part of their 101 00:04:14,940 --> 00:04:12,430 nonprofit that's like their spiritual 102 00:04:17,370 --> 00:04:14,950 foundation so it's pretty much based on 103 00:04:19,740 --> 00:04:17,380 theosophy and of course we talked about 104 00:04:22,380 --> 00:04:19,750 last time the US government and its 105 00:04:24,510 --> 00:04:22,390 connections to Scottish Rite Freemasonry 106 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:24,520 and NASA and of course everyone knows 107 00:04:29,280 --> 00:04:26,890 about Crowley in the influence in the 108 00:04:30,450 --> 00:04:29,290 entertainment industry and then I kind 109 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:30,460 of throw the Vatican and with that 110 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:31,810 because there's guilt by association 111 00:04:37,790 --> 00:04:34,570 where they intermingle with all those 112 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:37,800 groups in one way or another and so 113 00:04:43,770 --> 00:04:41,410 that's kind of where I draw my 114 00:04:46,890 --> 00:04:43,780 understanding of occultism now if people 115 00:04:49,170 --> 00:04:46,900 out there think that you know that's not 116 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:49,180 what occultism about or whatever it 117 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:51,370 doesn't really bother me the point being 118 00:04:56,700 --> 00:04:53,770 is that you know a lot of the groups 119 00:04:59,700 --> 00:04:56,710 that people would generally target as 120 00:05:01,409 --> 00:04:59,710 part of the NWO this seems to be what 121 00:05:04,020 --> 00:05:01,419 they're saying that they're following so 122 00:05:05,290 --> 00:05:04,030 that's where I'm coming from I feel like 123 00:05:07,870 --> 00:05:05,300 that's 124 00:05:11,890 --> 00:05:07,880 the best insight that US profane folks 125 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:11,900 can get into their world and you know as 126 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:13,370 I've gone through it it's just amazing 127 00:05:20,740 --> 00:05:17,930 to me how much I see that has some 128 00:05:22,150 --> 00:05:20,750 pretty profound connections and not to 129 00:05:23,620 --> 00:05:22,160 me too long-winded but when I first 130 00:05:28,150 --> 00:05:23,630 started the occult science it was really 131 00:05:29,860 --> 00:05:28,160 gonna be like six seven eight videos and 132 00:05:31,450 --> 00:05:29,870 then all of a sudden it just spiraled 133 00:05:34,210 --> 00:05:31,460 into this whole other thing and now it's 134 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:34,220 finally done and I'm glad but there's a 135 00:05:39,219 --> 00:05:36,650 lot there so that's where I'm at with it 136 00:05:41,740 --> 00:05:39,229 there is man and the depth that you've 137 00:05:43,870 --> 00:05:41,750 gone into on some of these little sagas 138 00:05:45,820 --> 00:05:43,880 and stories is just really really 139 00:05:48,129 --> 00:05:45,830 impressive and you mentioned the lucious 140 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:48,139 trust I had another couple of guests 141 00:05:51,610 --> 00:05:49,370 who've mentioned them in passing 142 00:05:53,230 --> 00:05:51,620 recently but maybe you could tell us a 143 00:05:54,939 --> 00:05:53,240 little more about them and their 144 00:05:56,409 --> 00:05:54,949 influence in culture and where we see it 145 00:05:56,620 --> 00:05:56,419 because of course there's think tanks 146 00:05:58,210 --> 00:05:56,630 like 147 00:06:00,820 --> 00:05:58,220 bilderberg's Council on Foreign 148 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:00,830 Relations trilateral commission we hear 149 00:06:05,290 --> 00:06:02,330 about them we hear about Skull and Bones 150 00:06:07,180 --> 00:06:05,300 we hear about Freemasonry but we don't 151 00:06:10,540 --> 00:06:07,190 hear quite as much about the lucious 152 00:06:14,260 --> 00:06:10,550 trust but why are they important well 153 00:06:16,870 --> 00:06:14,270 there's not a ton of information about 154 00:06:18,249 --> 00:06:16,880 them other than their website but early 155 00:06:20,589 --> 00:06:18,259 in the series and we might have talked 156 00:06:22,899 --> 00:06:20,599 about this last time the Rockefellers 157 00:06:25,689 --> 00:06:22,909 you know laid the foundations for the 158 00:06:28,029 --> 00:06:25,699 United Nations and the lucious Trust was 159 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:28,039 located at their Plaza for a while I 160 00:06:32,860 --> 00:06:30,530 believe they'd switch locations or 161 00:06:35,830 --> 00:06:32,870 something but it is interesting that you 162 00:06:39,159 --> 00:06:35,840 can see so much of the symbolism in the 163 00:06:42,490 --> 00:06:39,169 UN logos and then the Rockefellers with 164 00:06:45,249 --> 00:06:42,500 the Twin Towers and their Prometheus 165 00:06:47,439 --> 00:06:45,259 statue Atlas statue right you know all 166 00:06:50,379 --> 00:06:47,449 these things are important concepts in 167 00:06:52,450 --> 00:06:50,389 theosophy so when you are their website 168 00:06:54,430 --> 00:06:52,460 the lucious trust website you knows a 169 00:06:57,909 --> 00:06:54,440 lot of stuff about bringing in the Age 170 00:07:00,850 --> 00:06:57,919 of Aquarius and the Christ consciousness 171 00:07:03,249 --> 00:07:00,860 that is a fact according to them that 172 00:07:06,070 --> 00:07:03,259 can be and dwelling in people so you 173 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:06,080 know it really is the well that they're 174 00:07:10,990 --> 00:07:08,210 drawing from is esoteric philosophy 175 00:07:15,579 --> 00:07:11,000 Gnostic Eastern religions things of that 176 00:07:18,399 --> 00:07:15,589 nature so if that is driving the United 177 00:07:20,229 --> 00:07:18,409 Nations spiritually you know 178 00:07:21,219 --> 00:07:20,239 missions is they have their hands and 179 00:07:23,619 --> 00:07:21,229 everything and so I went through the 180 00:07:26,379 --> 00:07:23,629 series it's pretty crazy how influential 181 00:07:28,149 --> 00:07:26,389 they are on a lot of stuff so you know 182 00:07:30,969 --> 00:07:28,159 it's it's all there on their website I'd 183 00:07:33,969 --> 00:07:30,979 advise anybody to go check it out and my 184 00:07:35,409 --> 00:07:33,979 series also everything is sourced and in 185 00:07:38,019 --> 00:07:35,419 any of the videos there's a link below 186 00:07:40,359 --> 00:07:38,029 that says this is the references link 187 00:07:42,249 --> 00:07:40,369 you just go there it's a little drop box 188 00:07:43,949 --> 00:07:42,259 but in there there's a PDF file with the 189 00:07:46,869 --> 00:07:43,959 references you click on that and 190 00:07:48,219 --> 00:07:46,879 everything is all laid out and you can 191 00:07:50,139 --> 00:07:48,229 click on any of the links to go to 192 00:07:51,939 --> 00:07:50,149 anything so there's a ton of information 193 00:07:53,979 --> 00:07:51,949 in the references so I just want to make 194 00:07:57,129 --> 00:07:53,989 sure that everyone knows that everything 195 00:07:59,109 --> 00:07:57,139 I'm saying has a source of course of 196 00:08:00,759 --> 00:07:59,119 course yeah so I mean you can just see 197 00:08:02,799 --> 00:08:00,769 the occult influence when you look at 198 00:08:05,319 --> 00:08:02,809 their mission statements and their 199 00:08:06,790 --> 00:08:05,329 website and that kind of thing and it's 200 00:08:09,159 --> 00:08:06,800 quite telling especially when you know 201 00:08:11,799 --> 00:08:09,169 the source material like the Blavatsky 202 00:08:14,589 --> 00:08:11,809 Albert Pike stuff that you have read 203 00:08:16,419 --> 00:08:14,599 through so intensely and so when it 204 00:08:19,299 --> 00:08:16,429 comes to the aspects of what this hidden 205 00:08:21,459 --> 00:08:19,309 hand guy had said that are interesting 206 00:08:23,589 --> 00:08:21,469 probably the main thing is this claim 207 00:08:25,689 --> 00:08:23,599 that his bloodline isn't an earthly 208 00:08:27,069 --> 00:08:25,699 bloodline someone asked him about the 209 00:08:28,869 --> 00:08:27,079 Rothschilds and he said that they're 210 00:08:31,419 --> 00:08:28,879 just the foot soldiers and the lower 211 00:08:32,199 --> 00:08:31,429 level of the big pyramid compared to 212 00:08:34,540 --> 00:08:32,209 where he's at 213 00:08:37,540 --> 00:08:34,550 but regardless of the validity of his 214 00:08:39,909 --> 00:08:37,550 individual claim what has your research 215 00:08:41,469 --> 00:08:39,919 shown regarding elite bloodlines and 216 00:08:45,220 --> 00:08:41,479 their origins and the possibility of 217 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:45,230 some nonhuman sources in there yeah this 218 00:08:51,460 --> 00:08:48,290 is tricky because 219 00:08:54,910 --> 00:08:51,470 when I read theosophy and Freemasonry 220 00:08:58,800 --> 00:08:54,920 like in morals and Dogma it's weird 221 00:09:02,740 --> 00:08:58,810 because there's a lot of institutions 222 00:09:04,660 --> 00:09:02,750 that are when we think about the New 223 00:09:08,740 --> 00:09:04,670 World Order and all this stuff we think 224 00:09:11,310 --> 00:09:08,750 about like oh the government's and you 225 00:09:14,260 --> 00:09:11,320 know the religious institutions and 226 00:09:17,350 --> 00:09:14,270 politics and stuff like that and it's 227 00:09:20,890 --> 00:09:17,360 very strange because when you read a lot 228 00:09:23,590 --> 00:09:20,900 of this literature you find that a lot 229 00:09:26,500 --> 00:09:23,600 of the enemies that the truthers target 230 00:09:27,940 --> 00:09:26,510 are actually enemies of Freemasonry in 231 00:09:30,310 --> 00:09:27,950 theosophy and that's something that's 232 00:09:33,150 --> 00:09:30,320 really hard for me to reconcile that 233 00:09:36,250 --> 00:09:33,160 outside of just some basic theological 234 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:36,260 constructs but for example I think we 235 00:09:39,700 --> 00:09:37,250 did talk about this a little bit last 236 00:09:43,470 --> 00:09:39,710 time but Albert Pike kind of shits on 237 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:43,480 monarchy and politics and even 238 00:09:47,890 --> 00:09:45,290 democratic or Republic 239 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:47,900 and I think it's in the like the third 240 00:09:51,550 --> 00:09:49,610 chapter of morals and Dogma it's called 241 00:09:54,190 --> 00:09:51,560 the master I think he lays out a lot of 242 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:54,200 his disdain for politicians and 243 00:09:58,510 --> 00:09:55,490 governments and things like that 244 00:10:00,550 --> 00:09:58,520 and also they don't seem to like the 245 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:00,560 Jesuits very much which is interesting 246 00:10:05,700 --> 00:10:03,650 to me because that's a big target in a 247 00:10:09,220 --> 00:10:05,710 lot of the conspiracy circles and 248 00:10:12,910 --> 00:10:09,230 Blavatsky definitely has you know a lot 249 00:10:15,190 --> 00:10:12,920 of well I guess anti Abrahamic religion 250 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:15,200 but specifically targeting a lot of 251 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:18,050 Judaism so this is really where you have 252 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:20,450 to get into the esoteric versus exoteric 253 00:10:24,130 --> 00:10:22,370 because anybody can say oh it's the Jews 254 00:10:24,850 --> 00:10:24,140 or oh it's a Jesuit since like what does 255 00:10:26,830 --> 00:10:24,860 that mean 256 00:10:29,230 --> 00:10:26,840 right you know and to me there's an 257 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:29,240 esoteric and exoteric layer to all of 258 00:10:34,900 --> 00:10:31,370 these things every single religion has 259 00:10:36,580 --> 00:10:34,910 it and so to me what really binds them 260 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:36,590 is the esoteric religion so it doesn't 261 00:10:41,740 --> 00:10:38,810 matter if they say I'm an atheist 262 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:41,750 because Blavatsky is always complaining 263 00:10:46,420 --> 00:10:44,570 about how people mistake all of these 264 00:10:49,860 --> 00:10:46,430 Eastern traditions for being atheistic 265 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:49,870 so again this is the veil that they use 266 00:10:54,820 --> 00:10:53,210 to disguise these secrets from the 267 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:54,830 profane and we can talk a bit more about 268 00:11:00,000 --> 00:10:57,170 you know the veil of Isis and what then 269 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:00,010 tales as far as I understand it so 270 00:11:05,550 --> 00:11:03,130 I can't remember what I kind of went up 271 00:11:07,170 --> 00:11:05,560 in a tangent no just blood lines yeah 272 00:11:09,330 --> 00:11:07,180 okay yeah so anyways the blood line 273 00:11:12,510 --> 00:11:09,340 thing this is interesting you know if 274 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:12,520 they don't like monarchy to me that's 275 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:14,890 being demeaning towards an earthly blood 276 00:11:20,610 --> 00:11:17,050 line if you will so I think what they 277 00:11:22,500 --> 00:11:20,620 look at as a blood line at least from 278 00:11:24,330 --> 00:11:22,510 the hidden hand perspective that would 279 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:24,340 align with stuff that I've looked at is 280 00:11:28,500 --> 00:11:26,770 more of the consciousness of what they 281 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:28,510 call you know the Adept the one that has 282 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:31,090 been illuminated or is in the know 283 00:11:36,390 --> 00:11:33,850 whatever you want to call them I think 284 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:36,400 it's more the idea that they have a 285 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:38,170 consciousness that's alien or 286 00:11:43,170 --> 00:11:40,090 otherworldly and not of this earthly 287 00:11:46,170 --> 00:11:43,180 realm and that is why they have so much 288 00:11:48,450 --> 00:11:46,180 symbolism and doctrine casting you know 289 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:48,460 the lower material world as profane and 290 00:11:54,330 --> 00:11:51,490 that's all of the square right so it is 291 00:11:56,700 --> 00:11:54,340 interesting how when they say bloodline 292 00:12:00,060 --> 00:11:56,710 in the hidden hand it seems like it's 293 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:00,070 being more utilized in a spiritual sense 294 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:02,650 yeah and I guess before we get too much 295 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:04,090 further into this I'll just talk a 296 00:12:07,590 --> 00:12:05,410 little bit about the hidden hand and 297 00:12:09,090 --> 00:12:07,600 what I kind of get from it sure you know 298 00:12:11,970 --> 00:12:09,100 there's definitely some times where I'm 299 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:11,980 like okay this sounds very hokey to me 300 00:12:15,510 --> 00:12:14,050 you know the failed predictions of some 301 00:12:18,210 --> 00:12:15,520 ridiculous statements and stuff like 302 00:12:21,300 --> 00:12:18,220 that but right I guess to me the value 303 00:12:24,690 --> 00:12:21,310 in discussing it here is there is quite 304 00:12:26,940 --> 00:12:24,700 a bit that does align with what I've 305 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:26,950 been through and so regardless if that 306 00:12:32,250 --> 00:12:29,410 is a hoax or not I think it still has 307 00:12:34,260 --> 00:12:32,260 value and it's similar to me in the vein 308 00:12:36,210 --> 00:12:34,270 of the protocols the elders of zion or 309 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:36,220 the Albert Pike world war three letter 310 00:12:43,050 --> 00:12:39,250 you know are those hoaxes or not but 311 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:43,060 there is some strange parallel to a lot 312 00:12:46,890 --> 00:12:44,650 of things going on when you read through 313 00:12:48,900 --> 00:12:46,900 those things especially the protocols of 314 00:12:50,220 --> 00:12:48,910 Zion when I read through that that was 315 00:12:52,530 --> 00:12:50,230 creepy man I don't have you ever read 316 00:12:54,870 --> 00:12:52,540 that whole thing not in its entirety 317 00:12:57,510 --> 00:12:54,880 I read enough quotes to see that 318 00:13:01,290 --> 00:12:57,520 disturbing eerie coincidence that you're 319 00:13:02,730 --> 00:13:01,300 talking about yeah so I chalk it up to 320 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:02,740 being along the lines of that where 321 00:13:09,420 --> 00:13:05,410 there's definitely things note worthy of 322 00:13:12,270 --> 00:13:09,430 discussing but the actual source could 323 00:13:13,630 --> 00:13:12,280 be a hoax and probably is I don't know 324 00:13:16,450 --> 00:13:13,640 that's what I get from it but I don't 325 00:13:18,370 --> 00:13:16,460 what your take on it is I mean yeah I'm 326 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:18,380 pretty much in agreement with you but 327 00:13:23,680 --> 00:13:21,050 it's those elements that do seem to have 328 00:13:25,450 --> 00:13:23,690 some merit that I wanted to dig into a 329 00:13:27,310 --> 00:13:25,460 little bit more but on the subject of or 330 00:13:29,350 --> 00:13:27,320 the possibility of them having a 331 00:13:30,910 --> 00:13:29,360 nonhuman source in there when you really 332 00:13:33,100 --> 00:13:30,920 get into the details of some of the work 333 00:13:35,410 --> 00:13:33,110 that you've done around the layers of 334 00:13:38,470 --> 00:13:35,420 symbolism and astrological meaning 335 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:38,480 behind major seemingly orchestrated 336 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:40,610 events like the JFK assassination or the 337 00:13:45,310 --> 00:13:42,770 Apollo missions you start to think that 338 00:13:47,500 --> 00:13:45,320 it's like two layered and too detailed 339 00:13:50,530 --> 00:13:47,510 for human hands almost it almost has to 340 00:13:52,420 --> 00:13:50,540 have some cosmic puppet master influence 341 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:52,430 because some of these events unfold as 342 00:13:57,610 --> 00:13:54,530 if someone is painting a picture with 343 00:13:59,800 --> 00:13:57,620 reality and symbols I'm absolutely there 344 00:14:01,270 --> 00:13:59,810 with you once I started looking at all 345 00:14:04,020 --> 00:14:01,280 this stuff I'm just like there's no way 346 00:14:05,170 --> 00:14:04,030 that this could all be done by just 347 00:14:07,660 --> 00:14:05,180 humans 348 00:14:08,950 --> 00:14:07,670 you know just wanting power and stuff 349 00:14:11,310 --> 00:14:08,960 like that there's just way too much 350 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:11,320 stuff going on and to me again it's this 351 00:14:16,690 --> 00:14:12,530 esoteric 352 00:14:20,050 --> 00:14:16,700 religion that binds them and to me 353 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:20,060 there's something to be said that when 354 00:14:24,550 --> 00:14:21,970 you have a certain mindset or worldview 355 00:14:25,930 --> 00:14:24,560 you're sharing a similar consciousness 356 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:25,940 you know what I mean there might be some 357 00:14:29,230 --> 00:14:27,650 things here and there that differ right 358 00:14:31,450 --> 00:14:29,240 you know I kind of look at it like my 359 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:31,460 relationship to whatever you want to 360 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:33,410 call it the true through world where 361 00:14:36,130 --> 00:14:34,730 it's like yeah there's a lot of things 362 00:14:38,590 --> 00:14:36,140 that go on in it that I'm not really a 363 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:38,600 huge fan of but I'm still part of that 364 00:14:42,630 --> 00:14:40,490 general mass consciousness that 365 00:14:46,690 --> 00:14:42,640 something is wrong and we're not being 366 00:14:48,310 --> 00:14:46,700 told things that are true and I think 367 00:14:50,260 --> 00:14:48,320 that we all for the most part can kind 368 00:14:52,930 --> 00:14:50,270 of agree that what is manipulating these 369 00:14:54,460 --> 00:14:52,940 things is not very good although I have 370 00:14:56,350 --> 00:14:54,470 had some strange reactions that you call 371 00:14:57,820 --> 00:14:56,360 science series where people say that 372 00:15:00,430 --> 00:14:57,830 they think they actually agree with the 373 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:00,440 elites base of my series so I've had so 374 00:15:03,580 --> 00:15:01,970 many different reactions it's really 375 00:15:04,690 --> 00:15:03,590 crazy it's interesting in hey that's 376 00:15:05,410 --> 00:15:04,700 that that was my whole point hey if 377 00:15:06,970 --> 00:15:05,420 that's what you want to think that's 378 00:15:08,170 --> 00:15:06,980 what you want to think you know I don't 379 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:08,180 want to try to convince anybody of 380 00:15:12,430 --> 00:15:10,130 anything right you do a great job of 381 00:15:15,700 --> 00:15:12,440 trying to just be impartial and that's 382 00:15:18,340 --> 00:15:15,710 fairly unique in this realm and in terms 383 00:15:20,650 --> 00:15:18,350 of their motivations for what the elite 384 00:15:22,630 --> 00:15:20,660 do the hidden Han says a lot of things 385 00:15:25,570 --> 00:15:22,640 that sync up with some Gnostic 386 00:15:27,650 --> 00:15:25,580 perspectives for example he says Yahweh 387 00:15:30,350 --> 00:15:27,660 due to the fact that he had not had 388 00:15:33,140 --> 00:15:30,360 his own free will to know thyself to 389 00:15:35,540 --> 00:15:33,150 those incarnated upon his planet it was 390 00:15:38,780 --> 00:15:35,550 having very little evolutionary progress 391 00:15:40,820 --> 00:15:38,790 therein so we the Lucifer group were 392 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:40,830 sent to help once the order was given 393 00:15:45,740 --> 00:15:43,530 from the Council of Elders we quote fell 394 00:15:48,140 --> 00:15:45,750 or descended back to a place where we 395 00:15:50,170 --> 00:15:48,150 could with hard work and focus once 396 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:50,180 again materialized a third density 397 00:15:54,410 --> 00:15:51,930 manifestation of ourselves and the 398 00:15:56,510 --> 00:15:54,420 absence of free will upon the planet 399 00:15:59,150 --> 00:15:56,520 there could be no polarity and therefore 400 00:16:01,430 --> 00:15:59,160 nothing to choose between just as it is 401 00:16:03,230 --> 00:16:01,440 portrayed in the book of Genesis with 402 00:16:05,810 --> 00:16:03,240 the Garden of Eden sure it was a lovely 403 00:16:08,510 --> 00:16:05,820 paradise but these beans incarnate in 404 00:16:09,950 --> 00:16:08,520 there had no aggregator towards evolving 405 00:16:11,780 --> 00:16:09,960 beyond the third density and therefore 406 00:16:15,110 --> 00:16:11,790 little hope of ever making the journey 407 00:16:17,180 --> 00:16:15,120 home to the one Yahweh has been happy to 408 00:16:19,850 --> 00:16:17,190 keep his own little pet Eden project in 409 00:16:21,890 --> 00:16:19,860 effect but with little chance of the 410 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:21,900 souls here making it home it had become 411 00:16:26,180 --> 00:16:23,970 in effect a prison I'll bite a very 412 00:16:28,850 --> 00:16:26,190 beautiful prison Yahweh was running a 413 00:16:30,590 --> 00:16:28,860 benign dictatorship and that's really 414 00:16:32,540 --> 00:16:30,600 interesting of course that's something I 415 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:32,550 got from Gnosticism generally of course 416 00:16:35,300 --> 00:16:33,770 a lot of things are considered 417 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:35,310 Gnosticism there's many different 418 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:37,530 perspectives there but that one is kind 419 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:39,090 of one of the core things that unites 420 00:16:43,430 --> 00:16:41,010 that corpus of material but what are 421 00:16:45,410 --> 00:16:43,440 your thoughts on this justification for 422 00:16:46,790 --> 00:16:45,420 the elites injection of negativity and 423 00:16:51,580 --> 00:16:46,800 struggle on the planet you think it 424 00:16:53,990 --> 00:16:51,590 holds me water well let's just say that 425 00:16:56,690 --> 00:16:54,000 I'm not a huge fan of that philosophy 426 00:17:00,320 --> 00:16:56,700 not just what you just stated there with 427 00:17:03,350 --> 00:17:00,330 the hidden hands perspective but it is 428 00:17:07,430 --> 00:17:03,360 very parallel to a lot of what Blavatsky 429 00:17:08,900 --> 00:17:07,440 talks about in specific ways so one 430 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:08,910 figure I talk about a lot is prometheus 431 00:17:14,360 --> 00:17:11,850 and livanski has a lot to say on 432 00:17:16,220 --> 00:17:14,370 Prometheus and I've read through this 433 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:16,230 chapter so much I can remember it I 434 00:17:21,410 --> 00:17:18,530 should tell people to go check out 435 00:17:26,030 --> 00:17:21,420 anthropogenic sis vol 2 pages 409 436 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:26,040 through 422 and that is really kind of 437 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:29,730 like the crux of a lot of the series and 438 00:17:35,180 --> 00:17:32,490 sort of what I'm applying to is the 439 00:17:36,710 --> 00:17:35,190 elites take on the figure of Prometheus 440 00:17:39,830 --> 00:17:36,720 and this is similar to what you just 441 00:17:44,799 --> 00:17:39,840 read from the hidden hand where 442 00:17:48,739 --> 00:17:44,809 it's this idea that humanity was in this 443 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:48,749 basic state of ignorance and kind of 444 00:17:53,299 --> 00:17:50,610 like a blissful ignorance I guess right 445 00:17:56,299 --> 00:17:53,309 and the whole point of Prometheus 446 00:17:58,639 --> 00:17:56,309 stealing the creative fire from the 447 00:18:01,100 --> 00:17:58,649 Elohim or the gods or whatever or the 448 00:18:03,919 --> 00:18:01,110 Olympic Zeus the tyrant Zeus as she 449 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:03,929 would call him and that's the Demiurge 450 00:18:09,019 --> 00:18:06,690 Zeus right that's the exoteric one so 451 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:09,029 that's essentially you know the Yahweh 452 00:18:13,419 --> 00:18:12,450 or Jehovah figure and that giving this 453 00:18:16,159 --> 00:18:13,429 to man 454 00:18:20,210 --> 00:18:16,169 basically infused him with a divine 455 00:18:22,669 --> 00:18:20,220 intellect but he's in this profane body 456 00:18:25,879 --> 00:18:22,679 and so this is what causes all the 457 00:18:29,210 --> 00:18:25,889 suffering and this starts the cycle of 458 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:29,220 necessity or karma or whatever and this 459 00:18:34,820 --> 00:18:32,450 is for the purpose of evolution and that 460 00:18:36,769 --> 00:18:34,830 talking about like the idea of Saturn 461 00:18:38,509 --> 00:18:36,779 where you know people will associate 462 00:18:41,539 --> 00:18:38,519 Saturn was sort of the Demiurge or 463 00:18:44,090 --> 00:18:41,549 whatever in the negative sense but in 464 00:18:47,930 --> 00:18:44,100 the esoteric sense Saturn is simply this 465 00:18:50,869 --> 00:18:47,940 equilibrate ER so the function the 466 00:18:53,450 --> 00:18:50,879 proper function of this you know kind of 467 00:18:55,940 --> 00:18:53,460 Demiurge figure that is blessing and 468 00:18:58,899 --> 00:18:55,950 cursing or whatever she basically talks 469 00:19:02,509 --> 00:18:58,909 about how the esoteric version of Shiva 470 00:19:05,570 --> 00:19:02,519 that is the primordial archetype of 471 00:19:07,519 --> 00:19:05,580 Jehovah and that the Bible kind of 472 00:19:09,169 --> 00:19:07,529 anthropomorphize that and bastardized it 473 00:19:12,820 --> 00:19:09,179 and just made it the highest guy where 474 00:19:15,409 --> 00:19:12,830 that was just this active male force and 475 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:15,419 part of that is the creative force and 476 00:19:20,450 --> 00:19:18,330 how it manifests it basically breaks 477 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:20,460 things down and rebirths them in a more 478 00:19:25,940 --> 00:19:23,369 spiritual form over time and that is 479 00:19:27,499 --> 00:19:25,950 part of this process of moving towards 480 00:19:29,239 --> 00:19:27,509 equilibrium everything needs to be 481 00:19:31,009 --> 00:19:29,249 equilibrated all these polarities need 482 00:19:34,340 --> 00:19:31,019 to be equilibrate it and then that is 483 00:19:36,830 --> 00:19:34,350 what is their essence of deity basically 484 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:36,840 there is no good or evil no light or 485 00:19:42,470 --> 00:19:39,090 dark it's just this unity and that's 486 00:19:45,619 --> 00:19:42,480 their idea of God and so we are going 487 00:19:47,659 --> 00:19:45,629 through this cycle of ascending back up 488 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:47,669 to that something along those lines and 489 00:19:52,789 --> 00:19:51,330 that that was the the function of Shiva 490 00:19:53,629 --> 00:19:52,799 and so that's pretty interesting how 491 00:19:55,669 --> 00:19:53,639 that's 492 00:19:57,859 --> 00:19:55,679 figure and CERN and I pretty much 493 00:20:00,769 --> 00:19:57,869 associate Shiva to the functions of 494 00:20:02,749 --> 00:20:00,779 Pluto and astrology kind of breaking 495 00:20:05,690 --> 00:20:02,759 down structures and rebirthing them and 496 00:20:09,079 --> 00:20:05,700 whatnot it's the the active force and 497 00:20:11,899 --> 00:20:09,089 that's kind of what she talks about in 498 00:20:13,190 --> 00:20:11,909 that chapter and then there's so much in 499 00:20:15,319 --> 00:20:13,200 that chapter I don't want to go off on 500 00:20:16,699 --> 00:20:15,329 some huge tangent on it but I definitely 501 00:20:18,589 --> 00:20:16,709 recommend some people if you're gonna 502 00:20:22,009 --> 00:20:18,599 get one of Lebowski's book 503 00:20:23,389 --> 00:20:22,019 I think anthropogenic aslam too is one 504 00:20:24,979 --> 00:20:23,399 of the better ones if you want to get 505 00:20:27,919 --> 00:20:24,989 into like a lot of the mythology and 506 00:20:30,979 --> 00:20:27,929 what that means in terms of their 507 00:20:34,839 --> 00:20:30,989 viewpoints on human consciousness right 508 00:20:38,229 --> 00:20:34,849 and yeah that Prometheus Lucifer 509 00:20:40,639 --> 00:20:38,239 archetype the great gift giver to man 510 00:20:43,129 --> 00:20:40,649 motif that is popular with these 511 00:20:44,749 --> 00:20:43,139 particular figures something else that's 512 00:20:46,789 --> 00:20:44,759 been coming up with the other guests 513 00:20:49,310 --> 00:20:46,799 recently is that when you look at some 514 00:20:51,739 --> 00:20:49,320 of the symbols that seemed to represent 515 00:20:54,379 --> 00:20:51,749 Lucifer Prometheus and you look deeper 516 00:20:57,379 --> 00:20:54,389 they actually seem to represent Mithras 517 00:20:59,569 --> 00:20:57,389 in in some weird way like the statue at 518 00:21:03,289 --> 00:20:59,579 Rockefeller Center would be one example 519 00:21:05,659 --> 00:21:03,299 and I'm curious if you kind of see that 520 00:21:07,069 --> 00:21:05,669 or if you see Mithras is representing 521 00:21:10,459 --> 00:21:07,079 something else and maybe this is the 522 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:10,469 esoteric esoteric idea of you know what 523 00:21:14,239 --> 00:21:12,570 they're presenting publicly but do you 524 00:21:15,649 --> 00:21:14,249 see a different meaning to that stuff or 525 00:21:17,659 --> 00:21:15,659 do you see it alluding to Mithras 526 00:21:21,529 --> 00:21:17,669 somehow and that conveying a different 527 00:21:23,810 --> 00:21:21,539 meaning yeah Mithras is interesting 528 00:21:25,399 --> 00:21:23,820 because I have read some explanations on 529 00:21:27,529 --> 00:21:25,409 it I think from Manley Palmer Hall and I 530 00:21:29,989 --> 00:21:27,539 wasn't really fully satisfied with it so 531 00:21:32,989 --> 00:21:29,999 I kind of draw some of my own 532 00:21:34,699 --> 00:21:32,999 understanding but also Blavatsky talks 533 00:21:37,279 --> 00:21:34,709 about he's the ruler of the solar year 534 00:21:39,709 --> 00:21:37,289 and this is kind of what the occultists 535 00:21:43,430 --> 00:21:39,719 do they view everything as a whole or as 536 00:21:46,310 --> 00:21:43,440 one and so in a year you have spring 537 00:21:48,049 --> 00:21:46,320 summer fall winter and you know us 538 00:21:50,839 --> 00:21:48,059 profane people would think of them as 539 00:21:53,509 --> 00:21:50,849 separate or something like that and so 540 00:21:54,949 --> 00:21:53,519 this is kind of the idea of Osiris and 541 00:21:58,009 --> 00:21:54,959 set or something like that you know 542 00:21:59,959 --> 00:21:58,019 Osiris represents the spring and the 543 00:22:02,359 --> 00:21:59,969 summer and the productivity of this 544 00:22:05,149 --> 00:22:02,369 active male force and then set 545 00:22:07,249 --> 00:22:05,159 represents the dark half of it and 546 00:22:07,820 --> 00:22:07,259 murdering that and then that's basically 547 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:07,830 the fall 548 00:22:14,930 --> 00:22:12,690 into generation or into darkness and 549 00:22:17,659 --> 00:22:14,940 then being reborn out of that that's 550 00:22:20,330 --> 00:22:17,669 sort of like this wisdom that is taught 551 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:20,340 and so Mithras encompasses the solar 552 00:22:22,580 --> 00:22:21,090 year 553 00:22:25,669 --> 00:22:22,590 that's what Lubezki was talking about 554 00:22:27,230 --> 00:22:25,679 related to a Brack sis and all of this 555 00:22:30,110 --> 00:22:27,240 is unified through what they call the 556 00:22:31,310 --> 00:22:30,120 central or spiritual Sun and this is 557 00:22:33,860 --> 00:22:31,320 something that the hidden hand talked 558 00:22:36,110 --> 00:22:33,870 about the central Sun and that's the 559 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:36,120 esoteric Sun so that's this androgynous 560 00:22:42,590 --> 00:22:39,450 pure spirit and then the exoteric is 561 00:22:45,379 --> 00:22:42,600 like the lower egoic you know Demiurge 562 00:22:48,850 --> 00:22:45,389 God who is in duality right mm-hmm 563 00:22:52,100 --> 00:22:48,860 the idea is that this split polarity of 564 00:22:55,549 --> 00:22:52,110 summer in winter or whatever it all came 565 00:22:58,940 --> 00:22:55,559 from the same unity and so our current 566 00:23:00,560 --> 00:22:58,950 world is is unequal abraded as she calls 567 00:23:03,259 --> 00:23:00,570 it and that is kind of the goal of the 568 00:23:04,820 --> 00:23:03,269 adepts through alchemy is you know the 569 00:23:07,940 --> 00:23:04,830 staff of Hermes with the Serpent's 570 00:23:09,409 --> 00:23:07,950 separate and then they synthesize again 571 00:23:11,659 --> 00:23:09,419 and separate and you keep doing that 572 00:23:14,330 --> 00:23:11,669 process all the way up to perfection or 573 00:23:16,370 --> 00:23:14,340 whatever and you you eyes this active 574 00:23:19,340 --> 00:23:16,380 force that's why that staff is phallic 575 00:23:21,710 --> 00:23:19,350 or whatever so this is the generative 576 00:23:24,500 --> 00:23:21,720 force that is the fire of Prometheus 577 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:24,510 essentially and to me Mithras is kind of 578 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:27,690 like encompassing both where it could be 579 00:23:33,590 --> 00:23:30,090 representing this spiritual solar Savior 580 00:23:35,570 --> 00:23:33,600 or Sun that slays the bull and if you 581 00:23:37,639 --> 00:23:35,580 want to utilize the bull as an allegory 582 00:23:39,769 --> 00:23:37,649 for like the lower nature of man or of 583 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:39,779 the square the base desires and whatnot 584 00:23:43,370 --> 00:23:41,850 because those are generally negative 585 00:23:46,850 --> 00:23:43,380 characteristics of the sign of Taurus 586 00:23:49,210 --> 00:23:46,860 and so this is the idea that you're 587 00:23:52,129 --> 00:23:49,220 slaying your lower nature that's in 588 00:23:53,930 --> 00:23:52,139 duality and you're ascending to your 589 00:23:55,610 --> 00:23:53,940 higher nature that's like one of the 590 00:23:57,710 --> 00:23:55,620 meanings that I think can be derived 591 00:24:00,110 --> 00:23:57,720 from it and then there's like a little 592 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:00,120 serpent coming out of the ground there's 593 00:24:03,529 --> 00:24:02,490 a scorpion like biting the testicles of 594 00:24:06,350 --> 00:24:03,539 the bull and stuff like that so that's 595 00:24:09,409 --> 00:24:06,360 like the fertility symbolism where they 596 00:24:11,899 --> 00:24:09,419 view sexual generation in terms of like 597 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:11,909 the sex is separated right polarities as 598 00:24:18,860 --> 00:24:15,090 sort of of the lower nature so male and 599 00:24:21,650 --> 00:24:18,870 female separated is kind of like this 600 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:21,660 bad thing and this 601 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:23,610 what Scorpio is about its it's the sign 602 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:25,650 of sexual generation so Scorpio is 603 00:24:30,170 --> 00:24:27,930 opposite Taurus on the zodiac and so 604 00:24:32,660 --> 00:24:30,180 they call this look at these polarities 605 00:24:34,730 --> 00:24:32,670 on the zodiac as being very 606 00:24:37,070 --> 00:24:34,740 intrinsically related to each other so 607 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:37,080 to me Mithras slaying the bull is like 608 00:24:41,030 --> 00:24:38,970 the Sun either coming into the 609 00:24:43,430 --> 00:24:41,040 constellation of Scorpio or tourists 610 00:24:45,830 --> 00:24:43,440 because the opposite end of the zodiac 611 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:45,840 they view as like the spiritual Sun so 612 00:24:50,900 --> 00:24:48,570 if the Sun is in Scorpio then the 613 00:24:52,490 --> 00:24:50,910 spiritual Sun or the heliocentric Sun 614 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:52,500 this is what mainly Palmer Hall talked 615 00:24:56,870 --> 00:24:54,690 about a bit would be in Taurus so I 616 00:25:00,290 --> 00:24:56,880 think that they kind of they play with 617 00:25:03,740 --> 00:25:00,300 these polarities and Mithras seems to be 618 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:03,750 a hieroglyph that kind of encompasses 619 00:25:08,060 --> 00:25:05,490 all of these motifs and whichever way 620 00:25:09,740 --> 00:25:08,070 you want to take it you know apply it to 621 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:09,750 the situation that makes sense but 622 00:25:12,950 --> 00:25:11,730 that's kind of where I'm at with it and 623 00:25:14,660 --> 00:25:12,960 again I'm using some of my own 624 00:25:16,970 --> 00:25:14,670 understanding of it into that but that's 625 00:25:19,940 --> 00:25:16,980 where I'm at right on so I mean at least 626 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:19,950 at least it seems like the archetypes of 627 00:25:25,700 --> 00:25:22,490 Lucifer Prometheus Mithras they are 628 00:25:29,090 --> 00:25:25,710 thematically aligned either way right 629 00:25:31,250 --> 00:25:29,100 it's teaching divine wisdom it's an 630 00:25:33,110 --> 00:25:31,260 initiation thing and it's just 631 00:25:35,660 --> 00:25:33,120 understanding the true nature of good 632 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:35,670 and evil according to them right whereas 633 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:38,010 it doesn't really exist it's polarity 634 00:25:43,220 --> 00:25:40,410 split in this world and in the higher 635 00:25:45,260 --> 00:25:43,230 heavenly realms that's the pure spirit 636 00:25:47,570 --> 00:25:45,270 of Lucifer it's an androgynous essence 637 00:25:49,730 --> 00:25:47,580 that you know it transcends the material 638 00:25:51,350 --> 00:25:49,740 world right and that was gonna be 639 00:25:53,530 --> 00:25:51,360 another one of the things I was gonna 640 00:25:56,210 --> 00:25:53,540 ask you about because another 641 00:25:57,890 --> 00:25:56,220 foundational element to your research 642 00:26:00,650 --> 00:25:57,900 and the hidden ham material is the 643 00:26:04,250 --> 00:26:00,660 classic knowledge of good and evil tree 644 00:26:05,870 --> 00:26:04,260 of life story and of course then you 645 00:26:07,670 --> 00:26:05,880 have the perspective of what that means 646 00:26:10,250 --> 00:26:07,680 to the occultists what do you think is 647 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:10,260 important to understand about this at 648 00:26:16,460 --> 00:26:12,090 the deeper levels that particular story 649 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:16,470 and their esoteric meaning of it sure 650 00:26:22,460 --> 00:26:19,770 well the knowledge of good and evil I 651 00:26:26,090 --> 00:26:22,470 kind of focused on this a bit in the 652 00:26:28,370 --> 00:26:26,100 latter part of the series and in terms 653 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:28,380 of the hidden hand it was pretty much 654 00:26:33,610 --> 00:26:31,770 directly in line with the philosophy 655 00:26:35,419 --> 00:26:33,620 so the hidden ham was talking about how 656 00:26:39,919 --> 00:26:35,429 you know the knowledge of good and evil 657 00:26:42,919 --> 00:26:39,929 is just knowledge of polarities and that 658 00:26:45,620 --> 00:26:42,929 is the knowledge that was given to 659 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:45,630 mankind now what the hidden hand doesn't 660 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:47,970 tell you that Blavatsky will talk about 661 00:26:52,549 --> 00:26:49,650 is that 662 00:26:55,700 --> 00:26:52,559 again this is just the true nature of 663 00:26:57,740 --> 00:26:55,710 good and evil and I did a bunch of 664 00:27:00,830 --> 00:26:57,750 videos on like the Garden of Eden and 665 00:27:03,740 --> 00:27:00,840 what livanski says that that originated 666 00:27:05,990 --> 00:27:03,750 from and I think she mentioned like 667 00:27:09,100 --> 00:27:06,000 twelve different things that it could 668 00:27:12,289 --> 00:27:09,110 mean and it got a little ridiculous but 669 00:27:15,260 --> 00:27:12,299 basically the story of the Garden of 670 00:27:19,029 --> 00:27:15,270 Eden according to Blavatsky the coats of 671 00:27:22,370 --> 00:27:19,039 skin that Adam and Eve are clothed with 672 00:27:23,930 --> 00:27:22,380 she says comes from some initiation 673 00:27:25,639 --> 00:27:23,940 ritual where if you understand the 674 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:25,649 knowledge of good and evil you've got 675 00:27:29,539 --> 00:27:27,330 these skins when you're initiated into 676 00:27:33,260 --> 00:27:29,549 these societies so they're saying that 677 00:27:35,899 --> 00:27:33,270 that understanding got mixed in to the 678 00:27:37,669 --> 00:27:35,909 hebrew genesis which she says all this 679 00:27:39,830 --> 00:27:37,679 stuff comes from eastern religion and so 680 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:39,840 all the knowledge of good and evil as 681 00:27:42,889 --> 00:27:42,090 they view it just comes from the eastern 682 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:42,899 traditions 683 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:46,770 now again I haven't read the Vedas and 684 00:27:49,340 --> 00:27:47,610 stuff like that 685 00:27:51,470 --> 00:27:49,350 so I don't know what they actually say 686 00:27:52,970 --> 00:27:51,480 because when Blavatsky goes through and 687 00:27:55,190 --> 00:27:52,980 says oh this passage in the Bible means 688 00:27:56,899 --> 00:27:55,200 this and that esoterically I've read 689 00:27:58,279 --> 00:27:56,909 enough for the Bible to be like you know 690 00:27:59,389 --> 00:27:58,289 sometimes that makes sense to me and 691 00:28:00,620 --> 00:27:59,399 sometimes I'm like I don't know where 692 00:28:01,700 --> 00:28:00,630 the hell she's getting that from it 693 00:28:02,899 --> 00:28:01,710 seems like they're just kind of pulling 694 00:28:05,090 --> 00:28:02,909 something out of their ass to make it 695 00:28:06,740 --> 00:28:05,100 fit so I don't know if they do that with 696 00:28:07,940 --> 00:28:06,750 the Eastern traditions too so I'm not 697 00:28:09,830 --> 00:28:07,950 saying that this is what the Eastern 698 00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:09,840 traditions teach but this is kind of 699 00:28:14,049 --> 00:28:12,000 what they say it teaches or they say 700 00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:14,059 it's the esoteric meaning of it so 701 00:28:20,750 --> 00:28:19,130 essentially that's like the primordial 702 00:28:22,669 --> 00:28:20,760 spirituality according to these 703 00:28:25,519 --> 00:28:22,679 occultists that it all comes from there 704 00:28:28,220 --> 00:28:25,529 and that if you understand that nature 705 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:28,230 of good and evil that essentially is 706 00:28:32,360 --> 00:28:29,730 this knowledge of good and evil and that 707 00:28:34,789 --> 00:28:32,370 there is still wisdom and the split 708 00:28:37,100 --> 00:28:34,799 duality of it and that's the point of 709 00:28:39,710 --> 00:28:37,110 the Old Testament God and their 710 00:28:41,029 --> 00:28:39,720 viewpoint you know Jehovah blessing and 711 00:28:43,820 --> 00:28:41,039 cursing and being what they call 712 00:28:45,500 --> 00:28:43,830 bi-polar you know oh I'm angry at Israel 713 00:28:46,399 --> 00:28:45,510 I'm going to punish them oh now I bless 714 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:46,409 them that kind of thing 715 00:28:50,630 --> 00:28:48,450 they say there's still wisdom in that 716 00:28:54,590 --> 00:28:50,640 but you need the esoteric books of the 717 00:28:56,350 --> 00:28:54,600 Kabbalah you know Sepher Yetzirah and i 718 00:29:00,850 --> 00:28:56,360 forget the other one 719 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:00,860 you need those to unlock the Bible in 720 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:03,770 its sixty-six books so that's what gives 721 00:29:08,289 --> 00:29:05,690 you the true understanding of the nature 722 00:29:11,980 --> 00:29:08,299 of good and evil so it's just what the 723 00:29:14,710 --> 00:29:11,990 adepts know as esoteric wisdom and that 724 00:29:17,799 --> 00:29:14,720 the profane people think that evil is 725 00:29:19,780 --> 00:29:17,809 some separate entity and you know the 726 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:19,790 anthropomorphize devil that's like the 727 00:29:22,780 --> 00:29:20,450 enemy 728 00:29:24,549 --> 00:29:22,790 if you anthropomorphize God or the devil 729 00:29:28,090 --> 00:29:24,559 and you think it's something external 730 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:28,100 than you that is essentially what they 731 00:29:32,230 --> 00:29:30,530 view is a profane and flawed philosophy 732 00:29:33,909 --> 00:29:32,240 and they think that that's part of all 733 00:29:36,669 --> 00:29:33,919 the problems of the world is that people 734 00:29:39,789 --> 00:29:36,679 don't understand these esoteric concepts 735 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:39,799 and so you know if we're gonna worship 736 00:29:44,950 --> 00:29:42,290 dualistic gods then that is gonna be our 737 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:44,960 own dualistic consciousness coming out 738 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:46,850 and you know there is something to that 739 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:50,210 but I think that there is other things 740 00:29:56,710 --> 00:29:53,450 that go along with that they kind of 741 00:29:58,659 --> 00:29:56,720 help that crazy come into the world if 742 00:30:01,690 --> 00:29:58,669 you know what I mean mm-hm 743 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:01,700 yeah man and I wanted to of course ask 744 00:30:04,930 --> 00:30:03,290 you a little bit about Lucifer and then 745 00:30:06,789 --> 00:30:04,940 talk about that knowledge of good and 746 00:30:09,820 --> 00:30:06,799 evil story and how to interpret it 747 00:30:12,130 --> 00:30:09,830 because in the big picture it is hard to 748 00:30:14,530 --> 00:30:12,140 know if we live in the playpen of a 749 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:14,540 tyrant or if this has just been hijacked 750 00:30:20,919 --> 00:30:17,770 by arrogant under minors of some kind of 751 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:20,929 Yahweh entity or both but one parallel 752 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:23,210 that you did draw to what's actually 753 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:25,490 going on in the world is the CRISPR gene 754 00:30:29,380 --> 00:30:27,770 manipulation technology and how it's 755 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:29,390 being peddled as something that might be 756 00:30:33,460 --> 00:30:31,130 the answer to all our medical prayers in 757 00:30:35,380 --> 00:30:33,470 fact you're also here in the philosophy 758 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:35,390 being promoted that once the gene 759 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:37,970 altering technology is perfected it 760 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:41,210 would actually be a moral obligation to 761 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:43,610 alter or you know quote perfects the 762 00:30:49,210 --> 00:30:46,250 genes of all the unborn or we'd be doing 763 00:30:51,690 --> 00:30:49,220 them a disservice and that is a creepy 764 00:30:53,919 --> 00:30:51,700 philosophy to be promoting and 765 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:53,929 mythologically speaking it's effectively 766 00:30:58,750 --> 00:30:56,690 the same catalyst for casting down the 767 00:31:01,090 --> 00:30:58,760 Fallen Angels messing with the genes of 768 00:31:02,710 --> 00:31:01,100 man through either sex or science but 769 00:31:04,900 --> 00:31:02,720 you know what does it matter which 770 00:31:06,310 --> 00:31:04,910 method that is kind of what they did but 771 00:31:08,180 --> 00:31:06,320 I found that to be a pretty interesting 772 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:08,190 parallel man 773 00:31:15,170 --> 00:31:12,690 yeah well to kind of set the stage for 774 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:15,180 that the lucious trust website talks 775 00:31:20,420 --> 00:31:17,730 about the sons of God which is basically 776 00:31:24,350 --> 00:31:20,430 the Genesis six sons of God which in the 777 00:31:27,770 --> 00:31:24,360 Orthodox are very naughty these are the 778 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:27,780 watcher angels and Enoch those are the 779 00:31:32,780 --> 00:31:30,050 good guys in esoteric philosophy and 780 00:31:34,460 --> 00:31:32,790 those are the ones that give us this 781 00:31:36,890 --> 00:31:34,470 divine wisdom or this knowledge of 782 00:31:39,050 --> 00:31:36,900 polarities and this leads to technology 783 00:31:42,290 --> 00:31:39,060 so there is a technological component to 784 00:31:45,290 --> 00:31:42,300 this and so what you were talking about 785 00:31:47,810 --> 00:31:45,300 before with like the CRISPR stuff it is 786 00:31:50,270 --> 00:31:47,820 weird how they said that this could lead 787 00:31:54,140 --> 00:31:50,280 to moral issues where it would be 788 00:31:56,630 --> 00:31:54,150 inhumane not to modify human beings or 789 00:31:58,760 --> 00:31:56,640 even animals and this is interesting 790 00:32:02,180 --> 00:31:58,770 because in the Orthodox side of the 791 00:32:04,490 --> 00:32:02,190 story the watcher angels were messing 792 00:32:07,850 --> 00:32:04,500 with human genetics however you said 793 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:07,860 either by physically attaching 794 00:32:13,370 --> 00:32:09,810 themselves I guess through sexual 795 00:32:15,830 --> 00:32:13,380 intercourse or something else now again 796 00:32:17,420 --> 00:32:15,840 this is a mythology so I like to be a 797 00:32:19,490 --> 00:32:17,430 little bit more liberal about the 798 00:32:22,010 --> 00:32:19,500 Orthodox side and and view it like the 799 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:22,020 occultists do where it's an allegory for 800 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:25,050 human consciousness because sometimes I 801 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:27,330 think a lot of the literalism is the 802 00:32:31,130 --> 00:32:29,610 weapon to take us away from I think 803 00:32:33,410 --> 00:32:31,140 things that have value at least in the 804 00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:33,420 Orthodox viewpoint but if you view them 805 00:32:39,020 --> 00:32:36,720 like the occult is do as more mows of 806 00:32:41,570 --> 00:32:39,030 our human experience I think that some 807 00:32:43,670 --> 00:32:41,580 very interesting things come up so back 808 00:32:46,820 --> 00:32:43,680 to what you were saying this is kind of 809 00:32:49,490 --> 00:32:46,830 the crux of transhumanism and the idea 810 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:49,500 of avatars and how that relates to a lot 811 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:51,290 of the stuff that I went over in 812 00:32:58,760 --> 00:32:55,130 Lebowski's philosophy and how 813 00:33:00,950 --> 00:32:58,770 essentially these sons of God or the 814 00:33:04,130 --> 00:33:00,960 kumaras of Shiva you know they're 815 00:33:06,140 --> 00:33:04,140 helping evolve mankind and that is the 816 00:33:07,790 --> 00:33:06,150 crux of all of this transhumanist stuff 817 00:33:09,890 --> 00:33:07,800 oh it's all evolution we're just 818 00:33:11,450 --> 00:33:09,900 evolving and then the interesting thing 819 00:33:13,690 --> 00:33:11,460 is this is evolving beyond all the 820 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:13,700 polarities right male-female any 821 00:33:19,460 --> 00:33:16,530 division of race or nation or things 822 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:19,470 like that it's kind of like being all 823 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:21,690 unified into one and you can 824 00:33:31,249 --> 00:33:26,610 this Android right androgynous created 825 00:33:33,529 --> 00:33:31,259 body and this consciousness can be and 826 00:33:35,779 --> 00:33:33,539 dwelling in it and that's part of the 827 00:33:38,450 --> 00:33:35,789 goal it seems in a lot of the literature 828 00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:38,460 that I went through not really 829 00:33:42,649 --> 00:33:40,529 outwardly they don't ever say like we 830 00:33:44,509 --> 00:33:42,659 are going to make a human body out of 831 00:33:47,029 --> 00:33:44,519 technology and blend spirit with matter 832 00:33:50,690 --> 00:33:47,039 they don't say that but the philosophy 833 00:33:53,419 --> 00:33:50,700 is there to support that and so yeah all 834 00:33:55,340 --> 00:33:53,429 that stuff you know it is weird to me 835 00:33:58,159 --> 00:33:55,350 and I don't know how much of that is 836 00:34:00,980 --> 00:33:58,169 just reality and they can actually do 837 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:00,990 these things or they just maybe they're 838 00:34:05,389 --> 00:34:02,850 being all new-agey about it know if we 839 00:34:06,740 --> 00:34:05,399 just imagine these things they'll happen 840 00:34:09,079 --> 00:34:06,750 and they think that they can create 841 00:34:10,339 --> 00:34:09,089 their own reality but maybe they can't 842 00:34:11,990 --> 00:34:10,349 to a certain degree I don't know there's 843 00:34:14,569 --> 00:34:12,000 a lot of stuff that goes with that it's 844 00:34:16,909 --> 00:34:14,579 very strange as to what their actual 845 00:34:18,530 --> 00:34:16,919 level of technology is with all of this 846 00:34:20,059 --> 00:34:18,540 stuff but they seem to have very high 847 00:34:22,270 --> 00:34:20,069 hopes and aspirations for it if you 848 00:34:26,569 --> 00:34:22,280 watch any of the transhumanist stuff 849 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:26,579 right and it is just eerie how overall a 850 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:29,010 lot of mythology and religion describes 851 00:34:35,389 --> 00:34:32,490 that cycle of man claws up only to be 852 00:34:36,950 --> 00:34:35,399 stricken back down and at the same time 853 00:34:40,569 --> 00:34:36,960 a lot of people have the feeling that 854 00:34:43,339 --> 00:34:40,579 things are sort of coming to a head 855 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:43,349 technologically economically politically 856 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:45,810 and it does make one wonder if we're 857 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:49,530 nearing some reset of the cycle well we 858 00:34:53,020 --> 00:34:51,450 could get into the root race cycles if 859 00:34:54,770 --> 00:34:53,030 you want cuz that's a good segue 860 00:34:59,180 --> 00:34:54,780 absolutely let's do it 861 00:35:01,760 --> 00:34:59,190 sure this is something that I had heard 862 00:35:03,140 --> 00:35:01,770 about you know with both ASCII root race 863 00:35:04,700 --> 00:35:03,150 cycles it's just something I kind of 864 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:04,710 knew about in passing but once I started 865 00:35:09,140 --> 00:35:07,050 reading about it I think there's some 866 00:35:10,790 --> 00:35:09,150 very revealing things in it and this 867 00:35:13,819 --> 00:35:10,800 does relate to the hidden hand in terms 868 00:35:16,359 --> 00:35:13,829 of you know that guys or girl I don't 869 00:35:19,010 --> 00:35:16,369 know it's calm a guy but his self 870 00:35:21,319 --> 00:35:19,020 proclamation that they've been steering 871 00:35:24,410 --> 00:35:21,329 humanity through evolutionary cycles 872 00:35:27,170 --> 00:35:24,420 over millennia right this would relate 873 00:35:29,690 --> 00:35:27,180 to Blavatsky's concept of root race 874 00:35:32,750 --> 00:35:29,700 cycles and I just encourage anyone out 875 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:32,760 there to just google Blavatsky root race 876 00:35:35,670 --> 00:35:34,650 cycle and look up images and they'll 877 00:35:37,349 --> 00:35:35,680 show you the diagram 878 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:37,359 and what I'm explaining now you'll be 879 00:35:42,569 --> 00:35:39,130 able to see a visual representation of 880 00:35:45,660 --> 00:35:42,579 it but this has very profound parallels 881 00:35:48,270 --> 00:35:45,670 to cosmology it starts with a single 882 00:35:51,930 --> 00:35:48,280 point that's like the creation of the 883 00:35:56,130 --> 00:35:51,940 primordial man as they call it and this 884 00:35:59,099 --> 00:35:56,140 is an androgynous spiritual man that is 885 00:36:02,430 --> 00:35:59,109 the Adam Kadmon as they call it and what 886 00:36:03,630 --> 00:36:02,440 happens is this idea of this cosmic egg 887 00:36:06,270 --> 00:36:03,640 we talked about this a little bit last 888 00:36:08,670 --> 00:36:06,280 time with a Big Bang Theory and George 889 00:36:10,559 --> 00:36:08,680 LeMay is theory of the cosmic egg and 890 00:36:13,829 --> 00:36:10,569 primordial matter now this is directly 891 00:36:18,420 --> 00:36:13,839 tied to Kabbalistic doctrine and it's 892 00:36:22,319 --> 00:36:18,430 this idea that Brahma is not the highest 893 00:36:26,250 --> 00:36:22,329 God but is the original prototype of I 894 00:36:28,890 --> 00:36:26,260 guess what Jehovah should be to the 895 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:28,900 occultists whereas the Orthodox 896 00:36:34,740 --> 00:36:30,490 viewpoint of Jehovah is just a 897 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:34,750 bastardization of this father God now 898 00:36:39,180 --> 00:36:37,210 this is what creates but it's not the 899 00:36:43,260 --> 00:36:39,190 highest God the highest God is just as 900 00:36:45,210 --> 00:36:43,270 essence it's like I 9 so at the top of 901 00:36:48,870 --> 00:36:45,220 the Tree of Life it's outside of the 902 00:36:51,420 --> 00:36:48,880 creation and some ray from this essence 903 00:36:54,329 --> 00:36:51,430 it's kind of abstract like hops into 904 00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:54,339 this cosmic egg and bursts it and that 905 00:37:00,180 --> 00:36:57,970 is this single point of light in which 906 00:37:01,710 --> 00:37:00,190 the infinite deity manifested and it's 907 00:37:03,660 --> 00:37:01,720 kind of like the idea of the infinite 908 00:37:06,390 --> 00:37:03,670 expanding universe right and everything 909 00:37:09,839 --> 00:37:06,400 was condensed in a single point and then 910 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:09,849 let there be light right and so it's 911 00:37:13,740 --> 00:37:11,650 very parallel with a Big Bang now some 912 00:37:16,230 --> 00:37:13,750 people have talked about the Big Bang is 913 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:16,240 it wasn't a single point but a lot of 914 00:37:19,530 --> 00:37:17,770 the theory as far as I've read does 915 00:37:21,750 --> 00:37:19,540 suggest a single point so there is some 916 00:37:23,250 --> 00:37:21,760 debate on this but there's enough of it 917 00:37:25,020 --> 00:37:23,260 that is out there in the mainstream that 918 00:37:28,770 --> 00:37:25,030 very much parallels this cabbalistic 919 00:37:33,420 --> 00:37:28,780 story of creation and so basically at 920 00:37:35,250 --> 00:37:33,430 the single point humanity is spiritual 921 00:37:37,740 --> 00:37:35,260 the creation is spiritual and it 922 00:37:40,740 --> 00:37:37,750 descends down this arc and goes down 923 00:37:44,010 --> 00:37:40,750 into more material nature and Blavatsky 924 00:37:46,890 --> 00:37:44,020 puts a point blank that there theosophy 925 00:37:49,230 --> 00:37:46,900 their viewpoint is panspermia meaning 926 00:37:51,990 --> 00:37:49,240 life on Earth evolved from 927 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:52,000 whatever star stuff you know like we're 928 00:37:56,940 --> 00:37:55,450 told in science right and so it starts 929 00:37:59,670 --> 00:37:56,950 out as this androgynous spiritual 930 00:38:02,819 --> 00:37:59,680 essence and then in Genesis she says 931 00:38:06,359 --> 00:38:02,829 that in the Kabbalah of Genesis this 932 00:38:09,210 --> 00:38:06,369 evolution is taught and it's Darwinian 933 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:09,220 in the sense that it's this natural 934 00:38:13,829 --> 00:38:11,650 selection but she's saying that the 935 00:38:15,839 --> 00:38:13,839 materialism of Darwin has it wrong and 936 00:38:18,599 --> 00:38:15,849 that's where the profane have it wrong 937 00:38:20,790 --> 00:38:18,609 where man didn't come from apes and 938 00:38:23,069 --> 00:38:20,800 that's where it started this spiritual 939 00:38:24,780 --> 00:38:23,079 essence came down and evolved through 940 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:24,790 all of these different cycles from you 941 00:38:30,690 --> 00:38:27,010 know dust and stones and plants and 942 00:38:33,420 --> 00:38:30,700 trees and to animals and it's split the 943 00:38:34,890 --> 00:38:33,430 sexes into sexual reproduction and 944 00:38:37,859 --> 00:38:34,900 that's the animal nature that's the 945 00:38:39,900 --> 00:38:37,869 lower nature and then from the lowest 946 00:38:40,530 --> 00:38:39,910 point of this gross materialism she 947 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:40,540 calls it 948 00:38:45,450 --> 00:38:43,450 that's when man starts evolving back up 949 00:38:47,549 --> 00:38:45,460 so that's kind of where the darwin picks 950 00:38:49,859 --> 00:38:47,559 up and she's saying he misses the 951 00:38:51,780 --> 00:38:49,869 spiritual component of it or at least 952 00:38:53,190 --> 00:38:51,790 people who are the materialists of that 953 00:38:54,930 --> 00:38:53,200 view point missed the spiritual 954 00:38:57,240 --> 00:38:54,940 component now whatever Darwin thought 955 00:39:00,059 --> 00:38:57,250 about all this if he was into this 956 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:00,069 esoteric stuff or not I don't know but 957 00:39:04,799 --> 00:39:02,290 yeah this root ray cycle goes down and 958 00:39:07,260 --> 00:39:04,809 then comes up and apparently at this 959 00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:07,270 point at least in her writings which are 960 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:10,089 supposedly in the 1800's late 1800s 961 00:39:16,650 --> 00:39:13,450 we're sort of approaching this six route 962 00:39:19,020 --> 00:39:16,660 race which is kind of a big deal because 963 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:19,030 this goes above the original point of 964 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:21,690 creation on this route race cycle and 965 00:39:26,910 --> 00:39:24,010 fast forward to a couple hundred years 966 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:26,920 if we're approaching this then this 967 00:39:32,789 --> 00:39:28,930 would be like a really important time 968 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:32,799 for occultists and she says that the 969 00:39:37,589 --> 00:39:36,130 initiate the adepts they only have the 970 00:39:41,370 --> 00:39:37,599 knowledge of these root race cycles it's 971 00:39:44,339 --> 00:39:41,380 not for the profane and so they're 972 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:44,349 guiding humanity through this with all 973 00:39:48,450 --> 00:39:46,210 of this you know secret wisdom behind 974 00:39:50,039 --> 00:39:48,460 the scenes at least according to her and 975 00:39:52,380 --> 00:39:50,049 it seems pretty in line with the hidden 976 00:39:53,730 --> 00:39:52,390 hand and so this is why I think it's so 977 00:39:55,170 --> 00:39:53,740 strange a lot of this stuff is coming 978 00:39:56,849 --> 00:39:55,180 mainstream especially with this 979 00:39:58,559 --> 00:39:56,859 transhumanist stuff they're always 980 00:40:01,050 --> 00:39:58,569 talking old humanity is going to a new 981 00:40:02,670 --> 00:40:01,060 era you know we could go to an old [\h__\h] 982 00:40:04,830 --> 00:40:02,680 right and I know you've been talking a 983 00:40:07,110 --> 00:40:04,840 lot about the dark ages and if that was 984 00:40:09,540 --> 00:40:07,120 even real or not right with the Fomenko 985 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:09,550 stuff but they always use that thousand 986 00:40:13,860 --> 00:40:11,050 years of darkness this we can't go back 987 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:13,870 to that and now we got to evolve and so 988 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:17,050 if in their mind we're coming back from 989 00:40:21,330 --> 00:40:19,450 the separation of sexes you know male 990 00:40:23,340 --> 00:40:21,340 and female I'm a man I have to have a 991 00:40:26,490 --> 00:40:23,350 woman to have sex with the reproduce 992 00:40:28,890 --> 00:40:26,500 that's of the lower animal nature and so 993 00:40:31,230 --> 00:40:28,900 as you move up you go to bisexuality and 994 00:40:33,690 --> 00:40:31,240 then you go to androgen E and so this 995 00:40:36,090 --> 00:40:33,700 seems to be very relevant to a lot of 996 00:40:37,380 --> 00:40:36,100 the transgender stuff going on and I 997 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:37,390 know that's a sensitive topic but I 998 00:40:42,060 --> 00:40:40,090 point out that a lot of this activism 999 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:42,070 surrounding it seems to be this esoteric 1000 00:40:48,930 --> 00:40:45,490 allegory for the concept of the spirit 1001 00:40:50,670 --> 00:40:48,940 of Lucifer this androgynous essence now 1002 00:40:52,260 --> 00:40:50,680 I don't care what anybody wants to do 1003 00:40:54,270 --> 00:40:52,270 with their lifestyle or whatever but if 1004 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:54,280 you're being used an alternative agenda 1005 00:40:58,050 --> 00:40:56,290 I think maybe you'd want to know about 1006 00:40:59,040 --> 00:40:58,060 that so that's why I'm questioning 1007 00:41:01,680 --> 00:40:59,050 what's going on with a lot of this 1008 00:41:04,350 --> 00:41:01,690 activism around it but that's the crux 1009 00:41:07,650 --> 00:41:04,360 of the root race cycle and they always 1010 00:41:10,290 --> 00:41:07,660 talk about how an old cycle needs to die 1011 00:41:12,930 --> 00:41:10,300 and that people who are stuck in that 1012 00:41:15,150 --> 00:41:12,940 way are going to fight and resist it and 1013 00:41:17,460 --> 00:41:15,160 so this is very interesting because a 1014 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:17,470 lot of that is going on with this idea 1015 00:41:22,770 --> 00:41:20,650 of the mass immigration and you know all 1016 00:41:24,060 --> 00:41:22,780 the stuff with Rexha and all that well 1017 00:41:25,830 --> 00:41:24,070 you know whatever your opinion on that 1018 00:41:27,510 --> 00:41:25,840 I'm not trying to debate this but I'm 1019 00:41:30,510 --> 00:41:27,520 just saying that that is a theme that's 1020 00:41:32,550 --> 00:41:30,520 going on and I wonder if this decline of 1021 00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:32,560 the West or this killing of Western 1022 00:41:37,620 --> 00:41:35,200 civilization as part of their concept of 1023 00:41:38,730 --> 00:41:37,630 this root race cycle and it has to fall 1024 00:41:40,470 --> 00:41:38,740 or something like that because that 1025 00:41:43,260 --> 00:41:40,480 seems to be very relevant to a lot of 1026 00:41:45,660 --> 00:41:43,270 things going on mm-hmm yeah it gets a 1027 00:41:47,910 --> 00:41:45,670 little confusing but it is really 1028 00:41:50,820 --> 00:41:47,920 fascinating and it is pretty deep she 1029 00:41:52,890 --> 00:41:50,830 gives pretty provocative names to these 1030 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:52,900 various root races mean she calls the 1031 00:41:57,750 --> 00:41:55,450 second one Hyperborean the third one Lou 1032 00:42:00,690 --> 00:41:57,760 Marian the fourth one atlantean the 1033 00:42:02,940 --> 00:42:00,700 fifth one Arian and you know there's a 1034 00:42:04,860 --> 00:42:02,950 lot of people who try to look back into 1035 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:04,870 antiquity and they consider these to be 1036 00:42:10,769 --> 00:42:07,210 almost prior civilizations Atlantis 1037 00:42:12,989 --> 00:42:10,779 Sumeria hyperborea and perhaps they were 1038 00:42:16,049 --> 00:42:12,999 that is one thing that she doesn't seem 1039 00:42:18,839 --> 00:42:16,059 to allegorize she seems to indicate that 1040 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:18,849 you know Atlantis was this real thing 1041 00:42:22,019 --> 00:42:21,130 now there's a lot of reading in those 1042 00:42:24,659 --> 00:42:22,029 books and I haven't gone through 1043 00:42:26,939 --> 00:42:24,669 everything so I actually have to read a 1044 00:42:28,620 --> 00:42:26,949 bit more on that that's like one thing 1045 00:42:30,599 --> 00:42:28,630 that I've kind of been waiting on but 1046 00:42:32,669 --> 00:42:30,609 that is involved with the hidden hand 1047 00:42:35,309 --> 00:42:32,679 saying yes Atlantis was perfectly real 1048 00:42:37,169 --> 00:42:35,319 and you know there obviously seems to be 1049 00:42:40,349 --> 00:42:37,179 something very profound with that and 1050 00:42:42,269 --> 00:42:40,359 there seems to me this idea that there 1051 00:42:45,359 --> 00:42:42,279 was a humorous surrounding the 1052 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:45,369 Atlanteans where it seems like they were 1053 00:42:50,669 --> 00:42:47,729 kind of this idea of the Olympic Zeus 1054 00:42:52,319 --> 00:42:50,679 where it's it's kind of like Jupiter in 1055 00:42:55,019 --> 00:42:52,329 astrology and the negative sense where 1056 00:42:57,149 --> 00:42:55,029 it can be self-indulgent and egoic and 1057 00:42:59,909 --> 00:42:57,159 lazy and basically have everything 1058 00:43:02,309 --> 00:42:59,919 handed to it and be destructive in that 1059 00:43:07,169 --> 00:43:02,319 sense like a big fat lazy King something 1060 00:43:09,979 --> 00:43:07,179 like that and so I think that in some 1061 00:43:12,630 --> 00:43:09,989 weird way the Western world to them is 1062 00:43:13,620 --> 00:43:12,640 it's almost like they're paralleling 1063 00:43:16,079 --> 00:43:13,630 that now I don't know how much that 1064 00:43:17,519 --> 00:43:16,089 happens organically or if they're part 1065 00:43:20,459 --> 00:43:17,529 of this root race cycle and they believe 1066 00:43:23,009 --> 00:43:20,469 that these things repeat have they had a 1067 00:43:24,689 --> 00:43:23,019 hidden hand and trying to make the 1068 00:43:28,049 --> 00:43:24,699 Western world like that and that's where 1069 00:43:29,699 --> 00:43:28,059 it gets kind of crazy right and also oh 1070 00:43:31,789 --> 00:43:29,709 sorry go ahead no you go ahead I'm here 1071 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:31,799 all the time 1072 00:43:38,699 --> 00:43:35,729 yeah so this is why you have bloodlines 1073 00:43:40,769 --> 00:43:38,709 like the Rockefellers and Rothschilds 1074 00:43:42,749 --> 00:43:40,779 and all of the ones that you would deem 1075 00:43:44,909 --> 00:43:42,759 is even like the Bush family and stuff 1076 00:43:47,849 --> 00:43:44,919 they fit this archetype of this 1077 00:43:49,999 --> 00:43:47,859 oppressive Zeus I guess more like the 1078 00:43:52,769 --> 00:43:50,009 bush regime with you know oil 1079 00:43:54,779 --> 00:43:52,779 imperialism and stuff like that and that 1080 00:43:58,530 --> 00:43:54,789 gets into this idea of are they playing 1081 00:44:00,900 --> 00:43:58,540 a role as this bad guy 1082 00:44:02,430 --> 00:44:00,910 but they are working in tandem with the 1083 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:02,440 United Nations which would seem to be 1084 00:44:06,260 --> 00:44:04,090 like the antithesis of that where they 1085 00:44:08,580 --> 00:44:06,270 want all of this globalism and 1086 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:08,590 redistribution of wealth and stuff like 1087 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:10,810 that and this is in line with occultism 1088 00:44:14,910 --> 00:44:12,850 because they view these polarities as 1089 00:44:17,430 --> 00:44:14,920 coming from the same source and this is 1090 00:44:19,470 --> 00:44:17,440 in line with the hidden hand and so I'm 1091 00:44:22,830 --> 00:44:19,480 just wondering if they create a straw 1092 00:44:24,420 --> 00:44:22,840 man bad guy for us in a way that we can 1093 00:44:26,490 --> 00:44:24,430 all point our fingers at these specific 1094 00:44:28,590 --> 00:44:26,500 bloodlines which the hidden hand is 1095 00:44:30,510 --> 00:44:28,600 calling earthly or lower bloodlines and 1096 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:30,520 we know that the occultists think 1097 00:44:35,550 --> 00:44:32,170 anything of the earthly nature is 1098 00:44:37,950 --> 00:44:35,560 profane but are those guys playing a 1099 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:37,960 role and they're just best buds with the 1100 00:44:43,590 --> 00:44:39,610 other side of that you know what I mean 1101 00:44:45,930 --> 00:44:43,600 so this idea of the Olympians oppressing 1102 00:44:49,740 --> 00:44:45,940 the Titans and and prometheus is a Titan 1103 00:44:52,500 --> 00:44:49,750 and this is very relevant to the 1104 00:44:54,690 --> 00:44:52,510 political system that we have where the 1105 00:44:58,050 --> 00:44:54,700 Republicans are like the Demiurge Zeus 1106 00:45:01,470 --> 00:44:58,060 these oppressive phallic force right the 1107 00:45:03,240 --> 00:45:01,480 patriarchy and then the liberal side is 1108 00:45:05,700 --> 00:45:03,250 like the Titans who are oppressed they 1109 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:05,710 have this divine intellect of love and 1110 00:45:10,260 --> 00:45:08,010 humanity and giving and nurturing and 1111 00:45:12,990 --> 00:45:10,270 you know this is the side that wants to 1112 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:13,000 evolve gender and things like that and 1113 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:15,130 so it's almost like they set up these 1114 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:17,650 two pillars that they control both sides 1115 00:45:22,260 --> 00:45:19,810 but it's based on this mythology and 1116 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:22,270 it's really strange and there's so much 1117 00:45:26,190 --> 00:45:24,610 going on right now with that with the 1118 00:45:27,900 --> 00:45:26,200 Trump thing and I don't want to get too 1119 00:45:29,970 --> 00:45:27,910 long-winded on this but I'll just throw 1120 00:45:31,830 --> 00:45:29,980 this out there really quickly have you 1121 00:45:33,450 --> 00:45:31,840 looked at the Economist Trump tarot 1122 00:45:36,060 --> 00:45:33,460 cards that were released in the end last 1123 00:45:37,590 --> 00:45:36,070 year yes but tell us about the details 1124 00:45:40,650 --> 00:45:37,600 there that you found most interesting 1125 00:45:42,540 --> 00:45:40,660 because that is pretty awesome yeah it 1126 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:42,550 seems like they're portraying Trump as 1127 00:45:47,100 --> 00:45:44,290 the Demiurge basically yelled the bay 1128 00:45:50,010 --> 00:45:47,110 off and Gnosticism this lion serpent and 1129 00:45:52,460 --> 00:45:50,020 if you look at the judgement card they 1130 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:52,470 placed him with an emperor card motif 1131 00:45:57,240 --> 00:45:55,570 where the Emperor if it's a tyrant 1132 00:46:00,570 --> 00:45:57,250 Emperor that's like the Olympics Seuss 1133 00:46:02,310 --> 00:46:00,580 and what is Trump's mo that people look 1134 00:46:04,740 --> 00:46:02,320 at him he's like this you know 1135 00:46:06,750 --> 00:46:04,750 capitalist he likes beautiful women 1136 00:46:09,420 --> 00:46:06,760 indulging in finer things these are all 1137 00:46:11,849 --> 00:46:09,430 these attributes of a sensual lustful 1138 00:46:13,470 --> 00:46:11,859 God like the Zeus that gets around and 1139 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:13,480 you know gets laid all the time that 1140 00:46:19,289 --> 00:46:17,410 exoteric version and then he's always 1141 00:46:20,489 --> 00:46:19,299 been portrayed as like this lion's mane 1142 00:46:22,229 --> 00:46:20,499 you know I mean his head his lake 1143 00:46:25,259 --> 00:46:22,239 they'll have always memes online of his 1144 00:46:27,989 --> 00:46:25,269 lion face he's got a man all right yeah 1145 00:46:30,479 --> 00:46:27,999 exactly and so that's the head avi Alda 1146 00:46:33,720 --> 00:46:30,489 Bay off and then the serpent is the body 1147 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:33,730 and they have him in black and a black 1148 00:46:38,849 --> 00:46:35,890 suit indicating like Saturnian colors 1149 00:46:41,220 --> 00:46:38,859 self devouring the lower serpent and 1150 00:46:43,529 --> 00:46:41,230 they have them on an American flag which 1151 00:46:46,289 --> 00:46:43,539 is shaped like a serpent on the world so 1152 00:46:49,410 --> 00:46:46,299 it's kind of like the tyrant holding the 1153 00:46:52,259 --> 00:46:49,420 humanity globe and bondage to its 1154 00:46:54,269 --> 00:46:52,269 profane lower nature and all the 1155 00:46:56,700 --> 00:46:54,279 symbolism is Saturnian things like that 1156 00:46:58,859 --> 00:46:56,710 and this is what I find it so 1157 00:47:02,640 --> 00:46:58,869 interesting is that the occult is view 1158 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:02,650 this profane dualistic nature as still 1159 00:47:09,180 --> 00:47:05,410 wisdom and this is what Blavatsky says 1160 00:47:10,890 --> 00:47:09,190 we're not extinct yelled ABEO is this 1161 00:47:13,319 --> 00:47:10,900 evil thing and one nothing to do with it 1162 00:47:15,150 --> 00:47:13,329 they're kind of profaning the mysteries 1163 00:47:18,359 --> 00:47:15,160 where there's actually wisdom in this 1164 00:47:19,650 --> 00:47:18,369 so-called evil or this lower nature but 1165 00:47:22,019 --> 00:47:19,660 you just have to understand the true 1166 00:47:24,390 --> 00:47:22,029 nature of good and evil as it's unity so 1167 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:24,400 to be able to utilize an alchemy and the 1168 00:47:28,319 --> 00:47:25,690 last point I'll make I know is getting 1169 00:47:31,259 --> 00:47:28,329 long-winded but if you look at Trump's 1170 00:47:33,569 --> 00:47:31,269 tower out front they have black and gold 1171 00:47:36,269 --> 00:47:33,579 and a clock kind of like Saturn Father 1172 00:47:38,519 --> 00:47:36,279 time they have all this alchemical 1173 00:47:41,279 --> 00:47:38,529 Saturnian symbolism of the letter gold 1174 00:47:42,630 --> 00:47:41,289 and they had that with 911 with the 1175 00:47:44,819 --> 00:47:42,640 Mecca Kaaba where they have the black 1176 00:47:46,769 --> 00:47:44,829 queue but the gold around it and I think 1177 00:47:51,180 --> 00:47:46,779 they utilize this black and gold motif 1178 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:51,190 or alchemy and they push something into 1179 00:47:56,970 --> 00:47:54,130 a profane Saturnian self devouring motif 1180 00:47:58,650 --> 00:47:56,980 and then they unify the opposites from 1181 00:48:00,359 --> 00:47:58,660 that so that's what happened with 9/11 1182 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:00,369 we have the imperialist West the 1183 00:48:05,609 --> 00:48:02,890 Demiurge Zeus and then we have the 1184 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:05,619 creation of these terrorists or you know 1185 00:48:09,420 --> 00:48:07,930 the u.s. always funding all these 1186 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:09,430 terrorist groups behind the scenes and 1187 00:48:14,670 --> 00:48:11,890 that comes back to devour the West you 1188 00:48:16,529 --> 00:48:14,680 have this devouring nature of Saturn but 1189 00:48:18,479 --> 00:48:16,539 then the occult is utilized that and 1190 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:18,489 they unified the pillars of the you know 1191 00:48:22,710 --> 00:48:20,410 the Twin Towers into a one World Trade 1192 00:48:24,150 --> 00:48:22,720 Center right and so I wonder if they 1193 00:48:25,010 --> 00:48:24,160 have something up their sleeve with that 1194 00:48:26,900 --> 00:48:25,020 for Trump 1195 00:48:29,540 --> 00:48:26,910 because a lot of that alchemical 1196 00:48:33,109 --> 00:48:29,550 symbolism is there yeah man it is 1197 00:48:35,930 --> 00:48:33,119 definitely deep and interesting stuff 1198 00:48:38,650 --> 00:48:35,940 and I'm kind of curious because so much 1199 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:38,660 your stuff is about mythology and 1200 00:48:44,420 --> 00:48:42,570 astrology and I've had an astrologer in 1201 00:48:46,370 --> 00:48:44,430 the past come on and talk about how this 1202 00:48:48,740 --> 00:48:46,380 great American eclipse coming is going 1203 00:48:50,540 --> 00:48:48,750 to be very significant and interacts 1204 00:48:53,330 --> 00:48:50,550 with Trump's natal chart in significant 1205 00:48:54,980 --> 00:48:53,340 ways but given what you've looked at in 1206 00:48:57,140 --> 00:48:54,990 astrology do you have any thoughts or 1207 00:48:58,880 --> 00:48:57,150 expectations in regards to the great 1208 00:49:00,560 --> 00:48:58,890 American eclipse coming up or what it 1209 00:49:03,620 --> 00:49:00,570 could represent or how it could be used 1210 00:49:05,090 --> 00:49:03,630 yeah I'm not good with eclipses and moon 1211 00:49:06,740 --> 00:49:05,100 cycles and stuff like that I have 1212 00:49:09,250 --> 00:49:06,750 actually been studying it a lot more but 1213 00:49:12,140 --> 00:49:09,260 what I think is interesting is this a 1214 00:49:15,350 --> 00:49:12,150 Pluto saturn conjunction coming up in 1215 00:49:18,740 --> 00:49:15,360 like 2020 or something like that and the 1216 00:49:22,820 --> 00:49:18,750 opposition was 9/11 that was Pluto 1217 00:49:25,070 --> 00:49:22,830 opposite Saturn and so now it's conjunct 1218 00:49:26,930 --> 00:49:25,080 so that's like you know you had the 1219 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:26,940 opposition or the polarity and now it's 1220 00:49:31,490 --> 00:49:29,490 unifying and so I don't like to predict 1221 00:49:33,500 --> 00:49:31,500 things right right I'm not really in 1222 00:49:36,740 --> 00:49:33,510 that realm but you know obviously a lot 1223 00:49:40,190 --> 00:49:36,750 of this stuff has a profound meaning to 1224 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:40,200 the elites but I also think that if it's 1225 00:49:45,790 --> 00:49:41,490 out there and people are talking about 1226 00:49:49,609 --> 00:49:45,800 it a lot I often think that sometimes 1227 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:49,619 that stuff they give a version of it for 1228 00:49:53,660 --> 00:49:51,930 us to kind of meddle with now whether 1229 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:53,670 people are researching and organically 1230 00:49:56,300 --> 00:49:55,050 coming up with stuff that's different 1231 00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:56,310 but like you know the whole September 1232 00:50:00,200 --> 00:49:58,050 23rd thing a few years ago there was 1233 00:50:02,180 --> 00:50:00,210 much ado about that turned out to be 1234 00:50:03,710 --> 00:50:02,190 nothing 2012 1235 00:50:05,510 --> 00:50:03,720 much ado about that turned out to be 1236 00:50:07,970 --> 00:50:05,520 nothing in terms of how we're all 1237 00:50:10,700 --> 00:50:07,980 portrayed but to me I think they view 1238 00:50:11,630 --> 00:50:10,710 things are happening but I think that 1239 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:11,640 they probably have a different 1240 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:13,890 understanding of it and so you know 1241 00:50:17,030 --> 00:50:14,970 again this is kind of like their 1242 00:50:22,099 --> 00:50:17,040 philosophy they give the masses a lot of 1243 00:50:23,930 --> 00:50:22,109 grandiose overly exaggerated stories and 1244 00:50:25,910 --> 00:50:23,940 stuff and I think that that's what they 1245 00:50:29,390 --> 00:50:25,920 think is the part of this veil to hide 1246 00:50:31,070 --> 00:50:29,400 the mysteries where unfortunately for 1247 00:50:32,450 --> 00:50:31,080 some people who might be more into some 1248 00:50:35,570 --> 00:50:32,460 that stuff a lot of this occultism I've 1249 00:50:36,910 --> 00:50:35,580 been reading is it's very not magical in 1250 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:36,920 a way that most people would think 1251 00:50:41,180 --> 00:50:38,850 levansky says you know 1252 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:41,190 channeling and using people as mediums 1253 00:50:44,870 --> 00:50:42,810 and stuff that's all profane and that 1254 00:50:46,700 --> 00:50:44,880 like any phenomena can be explained 1255 00:50:48,860 --> 00:50:46,710 through natural laws and things like 1256 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:48,870 that and it's very non magical in that 1257 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:51,450 sense so it's it's very interesting how 1258 00:50:55,790 --> 00:50:53,370 there's a lot of weird things that get 1259 00:50:57,350 --> 00:50:55,800 mixed up with all that so in terms of 1260 00:50:59,720 --> 00:50:57,360 the Eclipse stuff I just don't know 1261 00:51:01,550 --> 00:50:59,730 enough about it but I don't think that 1262 00:51:04,060 --> 00:51:01,560 anything too dramatic is gonna happen 1263 00:51:06,140 --> 00:51:04,070 because that just seems to be how things 1264 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:06,150 work and I think that when stuff 1265 00:51:11,060 --> 00:51:08,010 dramatic happens it's it's more out of 1266 00:51:13,610 --> 00:51:11,070 the blue but who knows fair enough and I 1267 00:51:15,710 --> 00:51:13,620 cannot argue that there there's a long 1268 00:51:17,330 --> 00:51:15,720 history of conspiracy enthusiasts 1269 00:51:18,860 --> 00:51:17,340 getting worked up about a particular 1270 00:51:21,980 --> 00:51:18,870 date or something and then nothing 1271 00:51:23,810 --> 00:51:21,990 happening but I'm I don't know we'll see 1272 00:51:26,750 --> 00:51:23,820 the Eclipse is coming very soon so we'll 1273 00:51:29,330 --> 00:51:26,760 know if it's significant or not yes sure 1274 00:51:31,790 --> 00:51:29,340 but towards the end of your series you 1275 00:51:34,220 --> 00:51:31,800 make some great points about solutions 1276 00:51:36,110 --> 00:51:34,230 or at least ways to cope with this type 1277 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:36,120 of stuff you mentioned the importance of 1278 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:37,650 personal connections that we can 1279 00:51:42,170 --> 00:51:39,690 actually see people as human beings and 1280 00:51:43,490 --> 00:51:42,180 maybe try to see their perspectives but 1281 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:43,500 I also like the parts where you talk 1282 00:51:47,390 --> 00:51:45,810 about this theme of the elites pushing 1283 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:47,400 the envelope in terms of playing God and 1284 00:51:52,490 --> 00:51:49,890 testing the limits in that dangerous 1285 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:52,500 Luciferian way and then maybe we should 1286 00:51:57,500 --> 00:51:54,930 focus on perfecting the situation within 1287 00:51:59,060 --> 00:51:57,510 our limits before we try to exceed them 1288 00:52:01,400 --> 00:51:59,070 something seems to be driving us ahead 1289 00:52:03,770 --> 00:52:01,410 when we haven't even solved the basic 1290 00:52:05,390 --> 00:52:03,780 problems of the human condition but of 1291 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:05,400 course we can only do so much if we're 1292 00:52:09,500 --> 00:52:08,130 not gonna take control the ship yeah and 1293 00:52:12,050 --> 00:52:09,510 you know that's something that's tough 1294 00:52:14,270 --> 00:52:12,060 because I don't really have a lot of 1295 00:52:15,410 --> 00:52:14,280 great solutions it's it's really tough 1296 00:52:16,940 --> 00:52:15,420 looking at all this stuff and you're 1297 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:16,950 like oh my god it's it's just so 1298 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:20,610 ingrained but if you look at the 1299 00:52:25,010 --> 00:52:23,130 theology as far as I've understood it 1300 00:52:26,930 --> 00:52:25,020 and read it their version of guys seems 1301 00:52:29,660 --> 00:52:26,940 to be this idea of something that's 1302 00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:29,670 impersonal and everything that is 1303 00:52:34,220 --> 00:52:32,250 profane to them is this concept of a 1304 00:52:36,050 --> 00:52:34,230 personal creator god and again I don't 1305 00:52:38,810 --> 00:52:36,060 mean this in a way that we're accustomed 1306 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:38,820 to understanding that and the exoteric 1307 00:52:44,210 --> 00:52:42,090 religion we've been given a version of 1308 00:52:47,270 --> 00:52:44,220 that but 1309 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:47,280 you know maybe there is something going 1310 00:52:52,130 --> 00:52:49,650 on around us that has some personal 1311 00:52:54,410 --> 00:52:52,140 outer influence that is tailored to our 1312 00:52:55,790 --> 00:52:54,420 individual situation and it's just 1313 00:52:57,020 --> 00:52:55,800 something that I've had events happen in 1314 00:52:59,780 --> 00:52:57,030 my life that have seen to be very 1315 00:53:02,480 --> 00:52:59,790 personally tailored to me some of them 1316 00:53:03,830 --> 00:53:02,490 have been not so great but some of them 1317 00:53:05,630 --> 00:53:03,840 I maybe kind of deserve because I was 1318 00:53:07,490 --> 00:53:05,640 being an [\h__\h] you know it's sort of 1319 00:53:09,470 --> 00:53:07,500 this karmic thing but it's very strange 1320 00:53:11,060 --> 00:53:09,480 because sometimes I see these things 1321 00:53:12,380 --> 00:53:11,070 like well that person did that and this 1322 00:53:16,339 --> 00:53:12,390 didn't happen in them but I immediately 1323 00:53:17,690 --> 00:53:16,349 got that blowback you know and so this 1324 00:53:19,490 --> 00:53:17,700 is kind of why I having sort of an 1325 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:19,500 affinity with some ideas of astrology 1326 00:53:23,720 --> 00:53:22,530 that really allow me to be a lot more 1327 00:53:26,270 --> 00:53:23,730 sympathetic to other people's personal 1328 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:26,280 situations that I'm not really in 1329 00:53:29,450 --> 00:53:27,570 control of some all-encompassing 1330 00:53:31,940 --> 00:53:29,460 judgment on somebody else 1331 00:53:33,859 --> 00:53:31,950 now I can look at their actions and be 1332 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:33,869 like okay I'm not a fan of that or you 1333 00:53:37,580 --> 00:53:36,090 know I like that I do understand this 1334 00:53:38,810 --> 00:53:37,590 and that about them so I understand kind 1335 00:53:41,180 --> 00:53:38,820 of more why they're like that and I 1336 00:53:43,580 --> 00:53:41,190 think that the more you understand 1337 00:53:45,650 --> 00:53:43,590 somebody's background or perspective I 1338 00:53:47,630 --> 00:53:45,660 think the more you can actually help 1339 00:53:49,579 --> 00:53:47,640 them and actually tolerate them in 1340 00:53:51,700 --> 00:53:49,589 moments where you might want to just run 1341 00:53:53,660 --> 00:53:51,710 out the door and I think that that's 1342 00:53:56,500 --> 00:53:53,670 something I separate from a lot of 1343 00:54:00,920 --> 00:53:56,510 doctrine where they seem to have a very 1344 00:54:03,829 --> 00:54:00,930 impersonal look on people who are 1345 00:54:06,020 --> 00:54:03,839 I guess in the matrix right it's sort of 1346 00:54:07,730 --> 00:54:06,030 like well kali-yuga is gonna happen and 1347 00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:07,740 you profane people are just gonna have 1348 00:54:12,579 --> 00:54:09,930 to sort that out sorry you know I just 1349 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:12,589 don't like that mentality right and I 1350 00:54:17,240 --> 00:54:15,210 see that coming out and some of the 1351 00:54:19,130 --> 00:54:17,250 truth or circles as well and I you know 1352 00:54:21,049 --> 00:54:19,140 I understand that because I get just as 1353 00:54:22,970 --> 00:54:21,059 pissed as the next person about why 1354 00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:22,980 people don't see this or that you know 1355 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:26,130 so it's it's a fine line to tread but it 1356 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:27,930 seems like that is their great enemy 1357 00:54:33,349 --> 00:54:31,050 this idea of this personal God that 1358 00:54:36,559 --> 00:54:33,359 cares about people on that individual 1359 00:54:39,020 --> 00:54:36,569 level and sometimes I think there's 1360 00:54:41,569 --> 00:54:39,030 wisdom and looking at these things and 1361 00:54:42,950 --> 00:54:41,579 deriving what you think isn't God or 1362 00:54:44,599 --> 00:54:42,960 divine or something that's a more 1363 00:54:47,180 --> 00:54:44,609 spiritual way of looking at things that 1364 00:54:48,740 --> 00:54:47,190 you think is profound it's kind of like 1365 00:54:49,819 --> 00:54:48,750 how they view the the polarities and 1366 00:54:51,380 --> 00:54:49,829 knowledge of good and evil there is 1367 00:54:53,150 --> 00:54:51,390 wisdom there but you got to read between 1368 00:54:55,730 --> 00:54:53,160 the lines and perform your own 1369 00:54:57,230 --> 00:54:55,740 unification of these opposites and I 1370 00:54:59,930 --> 00:54:57,240 think that that's what it is when I see 1371 00:55:02,089 --> 00:54:59,940 people acting in a polarized way a lot 1372 00:55:03,829 --> 00:55:02,099 of times I do see myself like okay I've 1373 00:55:05,630 --> 00:55:03,839 definitely done that before maybe not to 1374 00:55:07,849 --> 00:55:05,640 the extreme level that they are doing it 1375 00:55:09,319 --> 00:55:07,859 or maybe I have done it even more 1376 00:55:10,940 --> 00:55:09,329 extreme than somebody else and you know 1377 00:55:12,770 --> 00:55:10,950 you got to kind of differentiate what's 1378 00:55:15,380 --> 00:55:12,780 projection and what's actually you being 1379 00:55:17,089 --> 00:55:15,390 objective but you still need to 1380 00:55:18,650 --> 00:55:17,099 understand when you look at somebody 1381 00:55:20,539 --> 00:55:18,660 objectively to understand their 1382 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:20,549 subjective viewpoint that might sound 1383 00:55:24,740 --> 00:55:22,410 overly philosophical but I think you 1384 00:55:26,839 --> 00:55:24,750 kind of have to have both and this is 1385 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:26,849 what I relate to the internet that's 1386 00:55:30,140 --> 00:55:27,930 their creation 1387 00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:30,150 you know CERN creating the Internet and 1388 00:55:35,270 --> 00:55:32,250 with all these things with data mining 1389 00:55:38,270 --> 00:55:35,280 and this idea of creating this Universal 1390 00:55:40,670 --> 00:55:38,280 Mind the DARPA stuff I kind of went over 1391 00:55:44,990 --> 00:55:40,680 this in some of the later videos and 1392 00:55:46,789 --> 00:55:45,000 this is their idea of I guess the the 1393 00:55:48,289 --> 00:55:46,799 cosmic consciousness that we're all 1394 00:55:49,460 --> 00:55:48,299 participating in and this is very much 1395 00:55:51,349 --> 00:55:49,470 in line with a lot of the hidden hand 1396 00:55:54,470 --> 00:55:51,359 stuff it talked about a lot of this and 1397 00:55:56,990 --> 00:55:54,480 so if they view something as humanity 1398 00:55:58,970 --> 00:55:57,000 collectively as being very important I 1399 00:56:00,559 --> 00:55:58,980 think it's interesting that they try to 1400 00:56:02,510 --> 00:56:00,569 utilize that with the internet where 1401 00:56:04,819 --> 00:56:02,520 they're just data mining a lot of 1402 00:56:06,289 --> 00:56:04,829 people's personal information but 1403 00:56:07,339 --> 00:56:06,299 they're looking at it very impersonally 1404 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:07,349 they just want to look at what makes 1405 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:08,970 people tick and all these sorts of stuff 1406 00:56:13,490 --> 00:56:11,130 and then build their own AI based off of 1407 00:56:14,710 --> 00:56:13,500 it at least that seems to be what 1408 00:56:17,770 --> 00:56:14,720 they're saying and 1409 00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:17,780 you know to me I always found it very 1410 00:56:20,950 --> 00:56:19,490 strange when going on Facebook and stuff 1411 00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:20,960 I'm not on that anymore I mean I have 1412 00:56:23,620 --> 00:56:22,250 the account I just have a deactivator 1413 00:56:25,740 --> 00:56:23,630 that I just can't deal with it anymore 1414 00:56:29,020 --> 00:56:25,750 because you see people giving away 1415 00:56:31,390 --> 00:56:29,030 personal information that you can see 1416 00:56:34,210 --> 00:56:31,400 devoid of any puppet master controllers 1417 00:56:35,830 --> 00:56:34,220 just general people I just seen a lot of 1418 00:56:37,870 --> 00:56:35,840 my friends like these girls doing 1419 00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:37,880 selfies of them and bikinis I'm like you 1420 00:56:40,990 --> 00:56:39,290 don't realize how much of your 1421 00:56:42,849 --> 00:56:41,000 insecurities you're projecting to people 1422 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:42,859 and there are wolves out there that will 1423 00:56:46,420 --> 00:56:44,090 take advantage of that and they're gonna 1424 00:56:48,339 --> 00:56:46,430 play to your vanity and then you get 1425 00:56:50,230 --> 00:56:48,349 those relationship posts that some guy 1426 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:50,240 didn't work out because you realize he 1427 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:51,770 was a big jerk but it's just like well 1428 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:53,450 what are you putting out there and what 1429 00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:54,890 are you bringing to you and there's this 1430 00:56:59,710 --> 00:56:56,570 weird world of the internet where so 1431 00:57:02,349 --> 00:56:59,720 much of this is public and the internet 1432 00:57:03,849 --> 00:57:02,359 just brings out so much impersonal [\h__\h] 1433 00:57:06,070 --> 00:57:03,859 in people where they don't view people 1434 00:57:08,500 --> 00:57:06,080 as human beings and nothing is more true 1435 00:57:10,510 --> 00:57:08,510 than comment threads especially on 1436 00:57:12,580 --> 00:57:10,520 YouTube where it's like you would never 1437 00:57:15,130 --> 00:57:12,590 talk to somebody in real life like 1438 00:57:16,750 --> 00:57:15,140 you're talking to those people in a lot 1439 00:57:18,810 --> 00:57:16,760 of instances of what you see and I found 1440 00:57:22,030 --> 00:57:18,820 myself doing this you know I've been on 1441 00:57:23,829 --> 00:57:22,040 debates online where I start oh you know 1442 00:57:25,930 --> 00:57:23,839 what I'm gonna refute this guy's point 1443 00:57:27,250 --> 00:57:25,940 and show what an idiot he is but what am 1444 00:57:28,780 --> 00:57:27,260 I really doing that I'm just trying to 1445 00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:28,790 make myself you know it's just like what 1446 00:57:31,060 --> 00:57:30,050 am i doing and I find all this nasty 1447 00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:31,070 [\h__\h] coming out of me and I'm just like 1448 00:57:35,020 --> 00:57:33,770 this is really impersonal izing things 1449 00:57:37,450 --> 00:57:35,030 for me and there's something really 1450 00:57:41,260 --> 00:57:37,460 weird about the internet and I think 1451 00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:41,270 that it was created with a mal-intent 1452 00:57:46,450 --> 00:57:43,490 at the beginning and there's something 1453 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:46,460 about that that we have to really 1454 00:57:52,089 --> 00:57:48,890 struggle with that it brings that out in 1455 00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:52,099 us and I think it is a useful tool but 1456 00:57:55,420 --> 00:57:53,450 if it starts breeding all this 1457 00:57:56,859 --> 00:57:55,430 impersonal behavior we're just judging 1458 00:57:58,270 --> 00:57:56,869 people left and right because they 1459 00:58:01,320 --> 00:57:58,280 believe this or that and we just don't 1460 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:01,330 even know them face to face as a person 1461 00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:03,410 there's something really dangerous about 1462 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:05,570 that and you know that that was just 1463 00:58:09,099 --> 00:58:07,010 kind of my whole point with that where 1464 00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:09,109 to me it's reflecting their version of 1465 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:11,330 God where all this impersonal behavior 1466 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:12,890 is happening and so that just it's it's 1467 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:13,970 very telling to me in a very 1468 00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:16,730 philosophical way and that's why I'm 1469 00:58:21,650 --> 00:58:18,770 really trying to get away from engaging 1470 00:58:23,090 --> 00:58:21,660 in online stuff 1471 00:58:24,830 --> 00:58:23,100 it's different when you know you have a 1472 00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:24,840 site and you have a forum and that's the 1473 00:58:27,860 --> 00:58:26,250 basis of your show connecting with 1474 00:58:29,690 --> 00:58:27,870 people work I don't know for my own 1475 00:58:31,070 --> 00:58:29,700 purposes I'm trying to just leave it up 1476 00:58:32,420 --> 00:58:31,080 to like if people want to email me they 1477 00:58:35,510 --> 00:58:32,430 can email me but I'm kind of done 1478 00:58:38,870 --> 00:58:35,520 talking and common threads because you 1479 00:58:40,780 --> 00:58:38,880 know I just find a lot of bad stuff can 1480 00:58:43,070 --> 00:58:40,790 escalate and it can give a lot of 1481 00:58:45,530 --> 00:58:43,080 preconceived biases and notions to 1482 00:58:46,790 --> 00:58:45,540 people and you know I'm trying to go a 1483 00:58:49,450 --> 00:58:46,800 different direction with that and I 1484 00:58:51,470 --> 00:58:49,460 guess to wrap up my point with this is 1485 00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:51,480 I'm thinking about going in a different 1486 00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:53,370 direction with my channel to begin with 1487 00:58:58,030 --> 00:58:55,890 and not really going through a lot of 1488 00:59:01,370 --> 00:58:58,040 this research like I had then because 1489 00:59:03,740 --> 00:59:01,380 you know everything that I presented the 1490 00:59:05,150 --> 00:59:03,750 fundamental concepts are there you just 1491 00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:05,160 take them and apply them to anything and 1492 00:59:08,690 --> 00:59:06,570 you're always gonna get a buttload of 1493 00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:08,700 details manifesting from that that say 1494 00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:11,370 the same thing you know and it's like 1495 00:59:14,810 --> 00:59:13,170 okay here you go everyone 1496 00:59:17,780 --> 00:59:14,820 all these ways they're [\h__\h] with you 1497 00:59:19,130 --> 00:59:17,790 and you didn't know it now you must feel 1498 00:59:20,900 --> 00:59:19,140 pretty awesome that you might have been 1499 00:59:23,060 --> 00:59:20,910 duped with this you know it's just so 1500 00:59:25,670 --> 00:59:23,070 [\h__\h] depressing but it's good to know 1501 00:59:27,500 --> 00:59:25,680 the ways you might be being steered 1502 00:59:28,970 --> 00:59:27,510 towards something you don't know but at 1503 00:59:30,890 --> 00:59:28,980 some point you got to kind of quit that 1504 00:59:32,870 --> 00:59:30,900 and so I'm gonna start I'm getting more 1505 00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:32,880 into studying astrology and maybe trying 1506 00:59:37,340 --> 00:59:36,090 to pursue that and trying to take some 1507 00:59:39,740 --> 00:59:37,350 of these concepts and all of these 1508 00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:39,750 philosophies and try to perform my own 1509 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:42,210 alchemy on it in a way that okay what do 1510 00:59:46,130 --> 00:59:43,890 I find profound what do I think works 1511 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:46,140 how can we use some of these things of 1512 00:59:52,100 --> 00:59:49,050 their system take out maybe the poison 1513 00:59:53,420 --> 00:59:52,110 bits you know like planetary cycles if 1514 00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:53,430 they're obsessed with this let me look 1515 00:59:58,820 --> 00:59:55,530 at these and see if I can make anything 1516 01:00:00,410 --> 00:59:58,830 that's more practical less fatalistic 1517 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:00,420 and I'm trying to go in that direction 1518 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:02,250 I'm not exactly sure where it's gonna go 1519 01:00:09,100 --> 01:00:05,490 but I kind of want to start giving more 1520 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:09,110 I don't know of a positive practical 1521 01:00:13,430 --> 01:00:12,090 nature to some of the material and I 1522 01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:13,440 might go back to some of the research 1523 01:00:16,220 --> 01:00:15,090 similar to the vein that I'm doing but 1524 01:00:18,350 --> 01:00:16,230 where I'm going now 1525 01:00:19,460 --> 01:00:18,360 I'm trying to reinvent it a bit I'm not 1526 01:00:22,070 --> 01:00:19,470 just like oh sure how that's gonna work 1527 01:00:24,500 --> 01:00:22,080 but that last video where I just sat 1528 01:00:26,810 --> 01:00:24,510 there and you know let some stuff loose 1529 01:00:28,370 --> 01:00:26,820 that was me being like man I want to 1530 01:00:30,170 --> 01:00:28,380 just get away from this [\h__\h] and 1531 01:00:31,610 --> 01:00:30,180 transform it into something different 1532 01:00:35,450 --> 01:00:31,620 and so that's kind of the essence of 1533 01:00:37,310 --> 01:00:35,460 that cheers man I definitely get why 1534 01:00:38,450 --> 01:00:37,320 would want to do that and I think you 1535 01:00:41,540 --> 01:00:38,460 make a good point about there being 1536 01:00:42,860 --> 01:00:41,550 something to face-to-face interactions 1537 01:00:44,780 --> 01:00:42,870 or something about that internet 1538 01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:44,790 separateness and I mean it's kind of the 1539 01:00:48,650 --> 01:00:46,410 same as driving right I mean you 1540 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:48,660 wouldn't dream of them or flip them off 1541 01:00:52,490 --> 01:00:50,010 or anything if it weren't in this 1542 01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:52,500 protective bubble of the vehicle and I 1543 01:00:56,420 --> 01:00:54,450 think that's the Internet it creates a 1544 01:00:58,730 --> 01:00:56,430 protective bubble where we can really 1545 01:01:02,480 --> 01:00:58,740 let our worst tendencies shine through 1546 01:01:04,190 --> 01:01:02,490 and you were talking about all the 1547 01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:04,200 devolve 'it's going on right now I mean 1548 01:01:08,210 --> 01:01:05,850 everywhere you look it's everything's 1549 01:01:11,050 --> 01:01:08,220 completely polarized black and white 1550 01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:11,060 left and right male-female gay straight 1551 01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:14,850 it's pretty crazy that not long ago all 1552 01:01:21,470 --> 01:01:17,370 those groups were somewhat united in the 1553 01:01:25,130 --> 01:01:21,480 Occupy protests against the 1% and then 1554 01:01:26,750 --> 01:01:25,140 just a few years later we have all these 1555 01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:26,760 same people who would have been involved 1556 01:01:31,970 --> 01:01:28,650 in Occupy protests but they're now 1557 01:01:35,390 --> 01:01:31,980 protesting what like other races other 1558 01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:35,400 sides and everybody's lost sight of the 1559 01:01:41,870 --> 01:01:38,610 elite and the unfairness and the 1560 01:01:44,420 --> 01:01:41,880 inequality and we were so close we had 1561 01:01:47,210 --> 01:01:44,430 it well yeah I don't know if you watch 1562 01:01:50,300 --> 01:01:47,220 the videos on Libya and Occupy that I 1563 01:01:54,110 --> 01:01:50,310 had where it's like oh god the Occupy 1564 01:01:56,180 --> 01:01:54,120 thing it's just it screams manipulation 1565 01:01:58,670 --> 01:01:56,190 to me from that and yeah I'm not gonna 1566 01:02:01,400 --> 01:01:58,680 get into that but it's true it's true it 1567 01:02:03,710 --> 01:02:01,410 was at least more on target yeah I guess 1568 01:02:05,900 --> 01:02:03,720 what it was was I talked about the 1569 01:02:09,020 --> 01:02:05,910 symbolism of Mary crushing the serpent 1570 01:02:10,970 --> 01:02:09,030 and how that's essentially a visual 1571 01:02:15,140 --> 01:02:10,980 representation of the constellations of 1572 01:02:18,110 --> 01:02:15,150 Virgo Libra and Scorpio and that's a 1573 01:02:20,930 --> 01:02:18,120 really important part of the sky in all 1574 01:02:22,610 --> 01:02:20,940 of this and zodiac signs and part of the 1575 01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:22,620 sky it's kind of a misnomer with like 1576 01:02:25,810 --> 01:02:24,090 Western astrology that's that's a whole 1577 01:02:29,420 --> 01:02:25,820 other thing but there's this idea that 1578 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:29,430 the Virgin is this pure state of this 1579 01:02:35,210 --> 01:02:33,450 spirit of Lucifer or what I mean by 1580 01:02:37,180 --> 01:02:35,220 Lucifer is the reason they revere that 1581 01:02:41,090 --> 01:02:37,190 is because they think that the Orthodox 1582 01:02:44,270 --> 01:02:41,100 perverted the Eastern traditions pure 1583 01:02:45,980 --> 01:02:44,280 spiritual ideas and then they made 1584 01:02:47,540 --> 01:02:45,990 Lucifer the bad guy so this is why the 1585 01:02:49,370 --> 01:02:47,550 occultists used Lucifer as this 1586 01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:49,380 archetype but really loose 1587 01:02:52,940 --> 01:02:51,450 verjus refers to the pure spirit of the 1588 01:02:54,620 --> 01:02:52,950 Eastern traditions according to the 1589 01:02:56,420 --> 01:02:54,630 occultist that's the main component of 1590 01:02:59,990 --> 01:02:56,430 it so this is what the celestial virgin 1591 01:03:02,150 --> 01:03:00,000 represents and then the Scorpio 1592 01:03:05,270 --> 01:03:02,160 constellation when Virgo and Scorpio 1593 01:03:06,890 --> 01:03:05,280 split Libra is inserted and so that the 1594 01:03:09,470 --> 01:03:06,900 lower nature is the serpent and that's 1595 01:03:11,420 --> 01:03:09,480 like the exoteric serpent that's the 1596 01:03:13,270 --> 01:03:11,430 serpent of generation the the sexual 1597 01:03:18,650 --> 01:03:13,280 reproduction and a lot of cast stuff so 1598 01:03:21,530 --> 01:03:18,660 it is interesting how they occupy they 1599 01:03:24,140 --> 01:03:21,540 started it in the sign of Virgo and the 1600 01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:24,150 Sun is in Virgo and meanwhile while 1601 01:03:30,590 --> 01:03:26,250 that's going on the Libya conflict is 1602 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:30,600 going on and they use this archetype of 1603 01:03:35,450 --> 01:03:32,970 the lower serpent the the phallic male 1604 01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:35,460 oppressor and that to me is like the 1605 01:03:39,380 --> 01:03:38,130 dictator right dick tater right I mean 1606 01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:39,390 that's that's the whole point of it and 1607 01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:41,730 then they say that Gaddafi is giving his 1608 01:03:47,060 --> 01:03:44,730 troops viagra right a phallic thing to 1609 01:03:50,450 --> 01:03:47,070 go rape all of these innocent pure 1610 01:03:52,100 --> 01:03:50,460 virgin women and children archetype so 1611 01:03:55,670 --> 01:03:52,110 they're using these archetypes of 1612 01:03:58,280 --> 01:03:55,680 astrology and then the Occupy symbol was 1613 01:04:00,290 --> 01:03:58,290 this ballerina on a bull conquering it 1614 01:04:03,470 --> 01:04:00,300 and you know the bull again and the 1615 01:04:05,330 --> 01:04:03,480 exoteric symbolism it's the profane 1616 01:04:07,370 --> 01:04:05,340 lower nature it's the bull of Wall 1617 01:04:09,710 --> 01:04:07,380 Street Western imperialism the phallic 1618 01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:09,720 nature all that stuff and again the bull 1619 01:04:13,610 --> 01:04:11,970 is opposite Scorpio on the zodiac so 1620 01:04:15,830 --> 01:04:13,620 they're just playing with the same motif 1621 01:04:18,260 --> 01:04:15,840 where this virgin goddess or this Divine 1622 01:04:20,660 --> 01:04:18,270 Feminine conquering this serpent or 1623 01:04:23,690 --> 01:04:20,670 conquering this bull so they give us the 1624 01:04:25,810 --> 01:04:23,700 occupy version of that where we think 1625 01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:25,820 we're conquering Western imperialism 1626 01:04:31,730 --> 01:04:29,730 meanwhile the West is invading Libya and 1627 01:04:34,550 --> 01:04:31,740 like you said all those groups that are 1628 01:04:36,350 --> 01:04:34,560 protesting that seemingly are involved 1629 01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:36,360 in all these racial black lives matter 1630 01:04:40,580 --> 01:04:38,850 issues later on with the brexit stuff 1631 01:04:43,130 --> 01:04:40,590 and all of that you know social justice 1632 01:04:45,410 --> 01:04:43,140 stuff well meanwhile the entire 1633 01:04:48,650 --> 01:04:45,420 continent of Africa where there are the 1634 01:04:50,900 --> 01:04:48,660 real African race is getting completely 1635 01:04:53,180 --> 01:04:50,910 [\h__\h] over by Western imperialism and 1636 01:04:55,430 --> 01:04:53,190 we have this archetype of this evil 1637 01:04:57,140 --> 01:04:55,440 dictator but you know if you look into 1638 01:04:58,850 --> 01:04:57,150 the alternative stuff on Gaddafi it 1639 01:05:00,560 --> 01:04:58,860 seems like he was trying to unite Africa 1640 01:05:03,259 --> 01:05:00,570 on its own resources get away from the 1641 01:05:06,589 --> 01:05:03,269 petrodollar right and empower 1642 01:05:09,589 --> 01:05:06,599 the African race as we would know it and 1643 01:05:11,389 --> 01:05:09,599 so where are all these bleeding hearts 1644 01:05:14,239 --> 01:05:11,399 for that while they're protesting 1645 01:05:16,249 --> 01:05:14,249 Western imperialism at my point is we're 1646 01:05:18,829 --> 01:05:16,259 given all of this archetypal symbolism 1647 01:05:20,809 --> 01:05:18,839 of this phallic serpent dictator and 1648 01:05:23,569 --> 01:05:20,819 then this ballerina or whatever 1649 01:05:25,609 --> 01:05:23,579 conquering this so they did this all 1650 01:05:27,859 --> 01:05:25,619 when the Sun was going through Virgo 1651 01:05:28,370 --> 01:05:27,869 Libra and Scorpio and Gadhafi think 1652 01:05:32,359 --> 01:05:28,380 about it 1653 01:05:35,509 --> 01:05:32,369 the country Libya Libra liberate all 1654 01:05:37,279 --> 01:05:35,519 these motifs and esoteric philosophy is 1655 01:05:38,959 --> 01:05:37,289 liberating you from the Demiurge which 1656 01:05:41,689 --> 01:05:38,969 is represented by the patriarchy the 1657 01:05:43,669 --> 01:05:41,699 phallic oppressor but again they're 1658 01:05:45,199 --> 01:05:43,679 using this archetype so they'd play it 1659 01:05:47,089 --> 01:05:45,209 up with Gaddafi now who knows I don't 1660 01:05:49,009 --> 01:05:47,099 know Gaddafi was just in on this and 1661 01:05:50,569 --> 01:05:49,019 they're putting on a big grand play or 1662 01:05:53,209 --> 01:05:50,579 show like the hidden hand said I don't 1663 01:05:55,339 --> 01:05:53,219 know but it is interesting how all of 1664 01:05:58,370 --> 01:05:55,349 these nations have all these dictators 1665 01:06:00,139 --> 01:05:58,380 that fit this archetype yet they're 1666 01:06:02,239 --> 01:06:00,149 trying to break away from international 1667 01:06:03,499 --> 01:06:02,249 banking or they don't have a bank they 1668 01:06:05,539 --> 01:06:03,509 might have a central bank but it's not 1669 01:06:07,370 --> 01:06:05,549 tied to these international banking and 1670 01:06:08,779 --> 01:06:07,380 it's very interesting I don't want to go 1671 01:06:11,059 --> 01:06:08,789 off in a huge tangent here but if you go 1672 01:06:13,219 --> 01:06:11,069 back to World War two and all the stuff 1673 01:06:15,079 --> 01:06:13,229 around that there's a lot of things that 1674 01:06:16,519 --> 01:06:15,089 were going on with that regime that 1675 01:06:19,189 --> 01:06:16,529 we're trying to break away from this 1676 01:06:21,229 --> 01:06:19,199 stuff and they're the ultimate archetype 1677 01:06:23,029 --> 01:06:21,239 for the phallic oppressive dictator and 1678 01:06:24,379 --> 01:06:23,039 again I had mentioned this on the last 1679 01:06:26,779 --> 01:06:24,389 show that I've been through a lot of 1680 01:06:28,699 --> 01:06:26,789 World War two revisionism stuff and you 1681 01:06:30,289 --> 01:06:28,709 know I can't say that I fully ascribed 1682 01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:30,299 to a lot of that or not it's it's 1683 01:06:33,679 --> 01:06:32,130 difficult but man there's so much 1684 01:06:35,209 --> 01:06:33,689 distortion going on in that and I think 1685 01:06:37,279 --> 01:06:35,219 that they just keep using his motifs 1686 01:06:40,039 --> 01:06:37,289 over and over and over again and the 1687 01:06:42,169 --> 01:06:40,049 Occupy Libya thing was and as above so 1688 01:06:44,749 --> 01:06:42,179 below projection of that because of the 1689 01:06:47,959 --> 01:06:44,759 consolations going through Virgo through 1690 01:06:49,429 --> 01:06:47,969 Scorpio during the entire escalation of 1691 01:06:51,319 --> 01:06:49,439 all that and I think that that's one 1692 01:06:53,599 --> 01:06:51,329 instance where I'm like dude they got 1693 01:06:56,870 --> 01:06:53,609 the [\h__\h] occultus signatures written 1694 01:06:59,239 --> 01:06:56,880 all over this and I just wonder how much 1695 01:07:01,279 --> 01:06:59,249 of that was just manufactured for an 1696 01:07:04,219 --> 01:07:01,289 agenda and meanwhile those people many 1697 01:07:05,749 --> 01:07:04,229 years later are protesting all the 1698 01:07:07,519 --> 01:07:05,759 brexit people and then they're telling 1699 01:07:09,769 --> 01:07:07,529 everybody the EU and the United Nations 1700 01:07:10,999 --> 01:07:09,779 are these saintly organizations because 1701 01:07:13,629 --> 01:07:11,009 they're bringing all these immigrants in 1702 01:07:16,500 --> 01:07:13,639 and they're all you know not being these 1703 01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:16,510 racist oppressors right right 1704 01:07:19,470 --> 01:07:17,890 but those are the organizations that 1705 01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:19,480 [\h__\h] over Libya the UN and put 1706 01:07:23,940 --> 01:07:21,490 sanctions on them basically the hammer 1707 01:07:25,770 --> 01:07:23,950 of the west of the military might that 1708 01:07:27,530 --> 01:07:25,780 everyone is protesting against that 1709 01:07:30,330 --> 01:07:27,540 represents that Demiurge force is 1710 01:07:31,890 --> 01:07:30,340 combining with the the nurturing united 1711 01:07:34,950 --> 01:07:31,900 nations they're sanctioning these 1712 01:07:36,930 --> 01:07:34,960 countries and then four or five years 1713 01:07:38,490 --> 01:07:36,940 later everyone forgets that and it's 1714 01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:38,500 just like they have everyone spinning in 1715 01:07:41,820 --> 01:07:39,850 these contradictions and that's what's 1716 01:07:44,220 --> 01:07:41,830 so hard when I try to explain this stuff 1717 01:07:45,900 --> 01:07:44,230 to people who are screaming at brexit 1718 01:07:48,540 --> 01:07:45,910 people for being racists and I'm just 1719 01:07:52,380 --> 01:07:48,550 like you're just promoting institutions 1720 01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:52,390 that [\h__\h] over the the African people 1721 01:07:55,980 --> 01:07:54,610 in Africa you know an assist they they 1722 01:07:57,330 --> 01:07:55,990 just kind of look at you like well I 1723 01:07:58,740 --> 01:07:57,340 don't know about that I'm focusing on 1724 01:08:00,090 --> 01:07:58,750 this right now and I'm just like I can't 1725 01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:00,100 I can't I just have to get away from 1726 01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:01,330 that conversation because it's just like 1727 01:08:05,610 --> 01:08:03,250 it's just not gonna go anywhere hey man 1728 01:08:07,980 --> 01:08:05,620 I hear ya nothing is genuine 1729 01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:07,990 everything's manipulated we are being 1730 01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:11,050 led around by the nose it is so true but 1731 01:08:15,570 --> 01:08:14,170 if I was just gonna look at that silver 1732 01:08:17,579 --> 01:08:15,580 lining it's that at least we were 1733 01:08:19,860 --> 01:08:17,589 looking up at the time instead of 1734 01:08:21,749 --> 01:08:19,870 directing our anger at each other but 1735 01:08:24,050 --> 01:08:21,759 it's all sleight of hand and celestial 1736 01:08:27,030 --> 01:08:24,060 puppet strings what are you gonna do but 1737 01:08:28,740 --> 01:08:27,040 man I know that you mentioned taking a 1738 01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:28,750 break from all this now that the series 1739 01:08:33,450 --> 01:08:31,330 is done and I hope a lot of listeners 1740 01:08:35,519 --> 01:08:33,460 will go and digest that series in its 1741 01:08:37,349 --> 01:08:35,529 entirety is there anything else in the 1742 01:08:38,910 --> 01:08:37,359 cards for you in terms of this type of 1743 01:08:42,510 --> 01:08:38,920 research or anything else to tell the 1744 01:08:44,309 --> 01:08:42,520 listeners about the future yeah I'd kind 1745 01:08:46,470 --> 01:08:44,319 of toyed with the notion of starting a 1746 01:08:48,269 --> 01:08:46,480 patreon account and seeing if maybe I 1747 01:08:50,610 --> 01:08:48,279 could have some of this research sink 1748 01:08:52,620 --> 01:08:50,620 into my work time because I definitely 1749 01:08:54,539 --> 01:08:52,630 neglected a lot of things during the 1750 01:08:56,190 --> 01:08:54,549 course of this research and you know 1751 01:08:59,099 --> 01:08:56,200 again back to the astrology I have a lot 1752 01:09:02,039 --> 01:08:59,109 of Scorpio like tendencies to just dig 1753 01:09:03,660 --> 01:09:02,049 and be one fixed focus on things and 1754 01:09:05,849 --> 01:09:03,670 just kind of go crazy with it and 1755 01:09:07,170 --> 01:09:05,859 neglect my health and you know now I'm 1756 01:09:08,190 --> 01:09:07,180 looking and I just think that's a pipe 1757 01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:08,200 dream I don't think that that's gonna 1758 01:09:12,480 --> 01:09:10,210 happen and you know I always felt weird 1759 01:09:14,010 --> 01:09:12,490 about it's not that I don't have a 1760 01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:14,020 problem with people getting money for 1761 01:09:20,039 --> 01:09:16,330 these sorts of things but I just I just 1762 01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:20,049 think that I can maybe try to pursue 1763 01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:22,810 more professional type astrology and and 1764 01:09:26,700 --> 01:09:25,210 try to do it in a way that is more 1765 01:09:29,039 --> 01:09:26,710 affordable than I find a lot of 1766 01:09:30,300 --> 01:09:29,049 astrologers being not not to like you 1767 01:09:31,349 --> 01:09:30,310 know [\h__\h] on people 1768 01:09:33,059 --> 01:09:31,359 a lot or something but I'm just saying 1769 01:09:34,770 --> 01:09:33,069 from my own personal experience yeah I 1770 01:09:37,380 --> 01:09:34,780 kind of want to go in that direction and 1771 01:09:39,209 --> 01:09:37,390 and try to do it in a way that maybe can 1772 01:09:43,379 --> 01:09:39,219 help people but 1773 01:09:44,789 --> 01:09:43,389 try to do it so they help themselves be 1774 01:09:46,169 --> 01:09:44,799 like okay here's what I understand about 1775 01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:46,179 this and here's what this might say 1776 01:09:50,999 --> 01:09:48,250 about this so let's work with it and and 1777 01:09:53,550 --> 01:09:51,009 that kind of thing and so the research 1778 01:09:55,110 --> 01:09:53,560 stuff has I've done it I might come back 1779 01:09:58,169 --> 01:09:55,120 to it I mean there's so much stuff I 1780 01:10:00,390 --> 01:09:58,179 wanted to do like things on 9/11 I know 1781 01:10:02,669 --> 01:10:00,400 I already did a lot of done the JFK but 1782 01:10:04,709 --> 01:10:02,679 I'm really not very happy with that 1783 01:10:06,149 --> 01:10:04,719 there's just so much that was my infant 1784 01:10:08,850 --> 01:10:06,159 stages of learning all this stuff and I 1785 01:10:10,350 --> 01:10:08,860 it was just way way too much [\h__\h] going 1786 01:10:12,209 --> 01:10:10,360 on so I kind of want to do this thing on 1787 01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:12,219 JFK alchemy of the king and the Queen 1788 01:10:16,010 --> 01:10:13,810 because the king and the Queen and 1789 01:10:19,919 --> 01:10:16,020 alchemy is like a central motif in 1790 01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:19,929 specific types of all of these hermetic 1791 01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:21,850 traditions like the twelve keys of Basel 1792 01:10:25,830 --> 01:10:23,130 Valentine and stuff like that and 1793 01:10:27,570 --> 01:10:25,840 there's always weird parallels going on 1794 01:10:28,950 --> 01:10:27,580 with that and the JFK presidency so I 1795 01:10:31,379 --> 01:10:28,960 kind of wanted to maybe center around 1796 01:10:33,870 --> 01:10:31,389 that and simplify that series sometime 1797 01:10:35,850 --> 01:10:33,880 down the road and you know it's just 1798 01:10:37,740 --> 01:10:35,860 like when do you have time for that and 1799 01:10:40,020 --> 01:10:37,750 so for now I want to focus on this but 1800 01:10:41,700 --> 01:10:40,030 also you know again I'm a musician and I 1801 01:10:43,770 --> 01:10:41,710 really want to get back to focusing on 1802 01:10:47,189 --> 01:10:43,780 putting a lot of time into that because 1803 01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:47,199 that's what really it's very Venusian it 1804 01:10:52,020 --> 01:10:49,810 allows me to bridge the gap between all 1805 01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:52,030 of this esoteric spiritual stuff that I 1806 01:10:57,060 --> 01:10:54,210 research in isolation from my everyday 1807 01:10:59,250 --> 01:10:57,070 friends and family that are not looking 1808 01:11:00,689 --> 01:10:59,260 at any of this stuff and that's 1809 01:11:02,550 --> 01:11:00,699 something that I'm able to you know 1810 01:11:04,830 --> 01:11:02,560 write songs about these sorts of things 1811 01:11:07,229 --> 01:11:04,840 but it doesn't have to be very overt it 1812 01:11:08,790 --> 01:11:07,239 can be more veiled and then I can still 1813 01:11:10,260 --> 01:11:08,800 talk with people about it I can still be 1814 01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:10,270 excited about it you know and that's 1815 01:11:16,169 --> 01:11:12,850 really the bridge to all of the people 1816 01:11:17,970 --> 01:11:16,179 in my regular life and I need that and I 1817 01:11:19,379 --> 01:11:17,980 got away from that in the past three or 1818 01:11:22,350 --> 01:11:19,389 four years and you know it was probably 1819 01:11:24,390 --> 01:11:22,360 necessary but I kind of want to have 1820 01:11:27,570 --> 01:11:24,400 time for that and then I'm just reading 1821 01:11:30,530 --> 01:11:27,580 a butt ton of books on astrology trying 1822 01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:30,540 to understand it the best that I can 1823 01:11:35,669 --> 01:11:32,650 amalgamating the things that make sense 1824 01:11:37,169 --> 01:11:35,679 to me and utilizing what I have learned 1825 01:11:39,419 --> 01:11:37,179 from a lot of this esoteric stuff and 1826 01:11:42,209 --> 01:11:39,429 even learning from what the elites seem 1827 01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:42,219 to do with a lot of these events that's 1828 01:11:45,810 --> 01:11:43,690 actually helped me understand certain 1829 01:11:49,350 --> 01:11:45,820 things so I'm trying to fuse my own 1830 01:11:51,780 --> 01:11:49,360 version of it and maybe try to release 1831 01:11:52,950 --> 01:11:51,790 it at some point where I start with just 1832 01:11:54,750 --> 01:11:52,960 basic birth chart 1833 01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:54,760 stuff with people and then maybe I need 1834 01:11:58,560 --> 01:11:56,290 to learn more about transits and stuff 1835 01:12:00,420 --> 01:11:58,570 and see if I'm really even into that and 1836 01:12:02,340 --> 01:12:00,430 maybe sometime next year I can release 1837 01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:02,350 that I don't know that's my plan because 1838 01:12:07,190 --> 01:12:04,690 I kind of need to do something that I 1839 01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:07,200 feel more positive about rather than 1840 01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:09,730 digging through all this occult stuff 1841 01:12:15,900 --> 01:12:13,050 and just seeing how [\h__\h] up it all is 1842 01:12:17,310 --> 01:12:15,910 so bet that that's the future for me at 1843 01:12:19,709 --> 01:12:17,320 least as far as I'm planning right now 1844 01:12:21,660 --> 01:12:19,719 well you've definitely done a lot of 1845 01:12:24,030 --> 01:12:21,670 work you've stared deep into the abyss 1846 01:12:26,370 --> 01:12:24,040 definitely take a break and hopefully 1847 01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:26,380 you do see some benefits of the journey 1848 01:12:32,310 --> 01:12:29,770 you took but right on man again great 1849 01:12:33,510 --> 01:12:32,320 job I hope we do put another one of 1850 01:12:35,190 --> 01:12:33,520 these together a few months down the 1851 01:12:37,470 --> 01:12:35,200 road because we did leave some things on 1852 01:12:39,750 --> 01:12:37,480 the table but until then take care of a 1853 01:12:42,209 --> 01:12:39,760 man yeah for sure you can talk about 1854 01:12:44,459 --> 01:12:42,219 this stuff forever so thanks thanks 1855 01:12:47,010 --> 01:12:44,469 again for having me on and before we go 1856 01:12:50,100 --> 01:12:47,020 I'll just say that our show we did 1857 01:12:52,229 --> 01:12:50,110 earlier that really was the catalyst to 1858 01:12:54,660 --> 01:12:52,239 my channel it it brought in so many new 1859 01:12:56,250 --> 01:12:54,670 people and everyone was really gracious 1860 01:12:58,950 --> 01:12:56,260 and I think that that speaks to your 1861 01:13:00,860 --> 01:12:58,960 audience cuz I got zero trolls from your 1862 01:13:03,030 --> 01:13:00,870 audience coming over to my channel and 1863 01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:03,040 you know I got a couple here and there 1864 01:13:09,030 --> 01:13:06,130 later on I even got some transhumanists 1865 01:13:11,580 --> 01:13:09,040 people coming around h plus people 1866 01:13:12,990 --> 01:13:11,590 saying you know leaving links saying if 1867 01:13:15,180 --> 01:13:13,000 you want to know more about trans fumé 1868 01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:15,190 like how much acting transhumanists 1869 01:13:18,959 --> 01:13:17,170 promoters like they're looking for it so 1870 01:13:20,910 --> 01:13:18,969 i guess maybe you're doing something 1871 01:13:23,310 --> 01:13:20,920 right if you're trying to like call that 1872 01:13:25,110 --> 01:13:23,320 out and you're getting the actual people 1873 01:13:28,770 --> 01:13:25,120 in the mainstream coming in trying to 1874 01:13:30,750 --> 01:13:28,780 you know quell your opinions on it by 1875 01:13:33,270 --> 01:13:30,760 the skin of my teeth man but I'm trying 1876 01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:33,280 thanks again for the opportunity and and 1877 01:13:38,940 --> 01:13:36,130 I think that you know your audience is a 1878 01:13:41,250 --> 01:13:38,950 reflection of the way you approach your 1879 01:13:44,010 --> 01:13:41,260 show so thanks again right on well to 1880 01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:44,020 kind man and thank you take care out 1881 01:13:47,970 --> 01:13:44,410 there 1882 01:13:50,190 --> 01:13:47,980 all right thanks Greg you got it 1883 01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:50,200 holy hell people the triumphant return 1884 01:13:55,650 --> 01:13:53,170 of Michael Joseph I think the man does 1885 01:13:57,990 --> 01:13:55,660 good work I appreciate his approach and 1886 01:13:59,940 --> 01:13:58,000 trying to be impartial and trying to be 1887 01:14:01,740 --> 01:13:59,950 as true to the source material as best 1888 01:14:04,380 --> 01:14:01,750 he can when relaying these perspectives 1889 01:14:06,270 --> 01:14:04,390 and I think I just appreciate him 1890 01:14:08,370 --> 01:14:06,280 because of that and because I share a 1891 01:14:10,620 --> 01:14:08,380 similar mindset that these things are so 1892 01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:10,630 complex and you never really know how 1893 01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:13,090 genuine the writer is being so you have 1894 01:14:16,440 --> 01:14:14,890 to be very careful with the tendency to 1895 01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:16,450 think that you've got it all figured out 1896 01:14:20,250 --> 01:14:18,610 but big thanks to him for going out of 1897 01:14:22,050 --> 01:14:20,260 his way to digest the hidden hand 1898 01:14:24,630 --> 01:14:22,060 material so that we could compare and 1899 01:14:26,580 --> 01:14:24,640 contrast it hopefully many of you also 1900 01:14:28,290 --> 01:14:26,590 found that saga interesting a few years 1901 01:14:30,530 --> 01:14:28,300 back I thought it was a good opportunity 1902 01:14:32,970 --> 01:14:30,540 to build a show around it to a degree 1903 01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:32,980 trying to do things just a little bit 1904 01:14:37,890 --> 01:14:35,530 differently and I really hope Michael 1905 01:14:39,930 --> 01:14:37,900 does keep working in this wheelhouse I 1906 01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:39,940 understand how draining it can be to put 1907 01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:41,770 out such a body of work and feel like 1908 01:14:48,060 --> 01:14:44,410 you put so much into it and you might 1909 01:14:50,190 --> 01:14:48,070 wonder for what of course I said that he 1910 01:14:51,750 --> 01:14:50,200 didn't say that but seriously if you 1911 01:14:53,820 --> 01:14:51,760 like these subjects go through his 1912 01:14:55,740 --> 01:14:53,830 youtube series it'll definitely keep you 1913 01:14:58,110 --> 01:14:55,750 busy until the next higher side episode 1914 01:15:01,320 --> 01:14:58,120 and I think it deserves a lot of added 1915 01:15:03,570 --> 01:15:01,330 attention schism 206 tell them you're 1916 01:15:06,330 --> 01:15:03,580 into it encourage the guy to keep it up 1917 01:15:08,370 --> 01:15:06,340 it's not easy work to do and there's 1918 01:15:10,140 --> 01:15:08,380 definitely not enough people doing it 1919 01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:10,150 especially ones who can be humble about 1920 01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:13,930 it and as for the material itself I can 1921 01:15:18,480 --> 01:15:15,970 see the first part that a Garden of Eden 1922 01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:18,490 situation could be illusionary it's that 1923 01:15:22,470 --> 01:15:21,010 whole ignorant is bliss idea we all know 1924 01:15:24,450 --> 01:15:22,480 a lot of people who think they're happy 1925 01:15:27,450 --> 01:15:24,460 in their simple little slave job life 1926 01:15:29,970 --> 01:15:27,460 never upsetting the masters you do stay 1927 01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:29,980 stagnant living that way and if you 1928 01:15:33,750 --> 01:15:31,810 become knowledgeable about the truth of 1929 01:15:36,390 --> 01:15:33,760 the situation it definitely affects your 1930 01:15:39,330 --> 01:15:36,400 blissfulness but I don't see how the 1931 01:15:42,150 --> 01:15:39,340 elites actions match up at all with a 1932 01:15:45,780 --> 01:15:42,160 desire to inspire or toughen us up 1933 01:15:49,260 --> 01:15:45,790 tonality it's a terrible way to inject 1934 01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:49,270 choice into a society it just seems like 1935 01:15:55,500 --> 01:15:52,690 a more obvious form of abuse than the 1936 01:15:57,690 --> 01:15:55,510 former but I also get why Michael would 1937 01:16:00,290 --> 01:15:57,700 be saying that he sometimes sides with 1938 01:16:01,859 --> 01:16:00,300 the Orthodox view if it's them saying 1939 01:16:04,020 --> 01:16:01,869 technology isn't evil 1940 01:16:06,569 --> 01:16:04,030 trick and now the cutting-edge stuff in 1941 01:16:10,379 --> 01:16:06,579 every field is weaponized against us 1942 01:16:12,779 --> 01:16:10,389 vaccines Big Pharma geoengineering big 1943 01:16:15,750 --> 01:16:12,789 agro chemicals and roundup resistant 1944 01:16:18,299 --> 01:16:15,760 crops television brainwashing internet 1945 01:16:21,929 --> 01:16:18,309 surveillance and tracking ad in this 1946 01:16:25,469 --> 01:16:21,939 creepy suspicious Wi-Fi signals and 5g 1947 01:16:27,919 --> 01:16:25,479 stuff and it's like every field of 1948 01:16:31,049 --> 01:16:27,929 Applied Technology is [\h__\h] us up and 1949 01:16:32,369 --> 01:16:31,059 it's not all bad right it's masked I 1950 01:16:34,589 --> 01:16:32,379 mean that's the trick to it a 1951 01:16:36,899 --> 01:16:34,599 Renaissance King would be jealous of the 1952 01:16:40,049 --> 01:16:36,909 conveniences that even the lower class 1953 01:16:43,889 --> 01:16:40,059 has today Xboxes air-conditioning 1954 01:16:45,869 --> 01:16:43,899 iPhones cars airplanes but it could be 1955 01:16:48,929 --> 01:16:45,879 the dark agenda that's hidden behind 1956 01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:48,939 these industries some occult adepts 1957 01:16:53,429 --> 01:16:51,610 greasing the engines it's hard to say 1958 01:16:55,919 --> 01:16:53,439 but we will know if the cycle resets 1959 01:16:59,129 --> 01:16:55,929 right none of it will seem worth it if 1960 01:17:02,100 --> 01:16:59,139 that day ever comes it's also like do 1961 01:17:03,719 --> 01:17:02,110 you use SERP a god because ego gets in 1962 01:17:06,569 --> 01:17:03,729 the way or because that God is 1963 01:17:08,429 --> 01:17:06,579 legitimately a tyrant it's hard to know 1964 01:17:10,350 --> 01:17:08,439 exactly how the game started but I can 1965 01:17:12,810 --> 01:17:10,360 see a perspective where an Elite 1966 01:17:14,790 --> 01:17:12,820 realizes there's a being controlling the 1967 01:17:17,119 --> 01:17:14,800 construct and wants to rise above it 1968 01:17:19,679 --> 01:17:17,129 just because their ego can't help itself 1969 01:17:21,989 --> 01:17:19,689 regardless of this entity's feelings 1970 01:17:24,689 --> 01:17:21,999 about man man can be an arrogant 1971 01:17:27,299 --> 01:17:24,699 creature also though it's hard to not be 1972 01:17:29,459 --> 01:17:27,309 on Team human right part of me is like 1973 01:17:31,169 --> 01:17:29,469 yeah break that construct figure out 1974 01:17:33,659 --> 01:17:31,179 what's going on here but just stop 1975 01:17:36,330 --> 01:17:33,669 [\h__\h] with the other people you've got 1976 01:17:38,580 --> 01:17:36,340 to punch up guys it's just funny because 1977 01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:38,590 I'd usually laugh at someone who says we 1978 01:17:44,009 --> 01:17:41,010 shouldn't play God and has just a super 1979 01:17:47,279 --> 01:17:44,019 Orthodox conservative viewpoint this 1980 01:17:49,409 --> 01:17:47,289 anti science nonsense or take the Amish 1981 01:17:52,259 --> 01:17:49,419 for example like that's a ridiculous 1982 01:17:53,759 --> 01:17:52,269 lifestyle borderline child abuse but 1983 01:17:56,939 --> 01:17:53,769 what if the Amish are the only ones on 1984 01:17:59,969 --> 01:17:56,949 the ark 2.0 or 6.0 for all we know 1985 01:18:03,330 --> 01:17:59,979 because they rejected Lucifer's light or 1986 01:18:04,889 --> 01:18:03,340 helping hand quote-unquote there are a 1987 01:18:06,989 --> 01:18:04,899 thousand different ways to look at it 1988 01:18:09,299 --> 01:18:06,999 and that's really all we can do because 1989 01:18:11,879 --> 01:18:09,309 we aren't steering the ship maybe it is 1990 01:18:15,149 --> 01:18:11,889 all just myth but it does reflect the 1991 01:18:16,500 --> 01:18:15,159 times with eerie levels of synchronicity 1992 01:18:19,799 --> 01:18:16,510 but maybe that's the power of a good 1993 01:18:21,870 --> 01:18:19,809 myth too but if that smartphone is the 1994 01:18:24,750 --> 01:18:21,880 mark of the beast and we all signed up 1995 01:18:25,770 --> 01:18:24,760 to be willing participants when the sea 1996 01:18:28,830 --> 01:18:25,780 levels rise 1997 01:18:30,179 --> 01:18:28,840 we got no one to blame but ourselves but 1998 01:18:33,330 --> 01:18:30,189 I got the Internet to thank for getting 1999 01:18:35,429 --> 01:18:33,340 me out of that boring rat race 9 to 5 so 2000 01:18:38,100 --> 01:18:35,439 I guess I'm just gonna have to go down 2001 01:18:40,679 --> 01:18:38,110 with the ship but folks it's another 2002 01:18:43,409 --> 01:18:40,689 long free show that you got today with 2003 01:18:45,810 --> 01:18:43,419 an extra hour four plus members join up 2004 01:18:48,029 --> 01:18:45,820 at the higher side chats plus calm it's 2005 01:18:49,799 --> 01:18:48,039 time you got the full THC experience if 2006 01:18:51,709 --> 01:18:49,809 you only heard that first hour that free 2007 01:18:55,259 --> 01:18:51,719 portion there's just nothing like it 2008 01:18:57,750 --> 01:18:55,269 it's more how could it not be better in 2009 01:19:00,299 --> 01:18:57,760 the extra hour of this episode we got 2010 01:19:02,250 --> 01:19:00,309 into how these esoteric ideas show up in 2011 01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:02,260 Hollywood movies like the game and Fight 2012 01:19:07,620 --> 01:19:05,530 Club the flaws inconsistencies and red 2013 01:19:09,959 --> 01:19:07,630 flags Michael finds amidst the hidden 2014 01:19:12,270 --> 01:19:09,969 hand material the possibility of 2015 01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:12,280 marginalizing magic and the paranormal 2016 01:19:17,790 --> 01:19:15,010 and culture to hide a hidden connection 2017 01:19:19,709 --> 01:19:17,800 to sinister forces seeding Chandler's in 2018 01:19:22,259 --> 01:19:19,719 the alternative community to backdoor 2019 01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:22,269 particular thoughts and ideas Michaels 2020 01:19:27,359 --> 01:19:25,090 personal paranormal experiences helper 2021 01:19:29,069 --> 01:19:27,369 beings of the Inner Earth symbolism 2022 01:19:31,049 --> 01:19:29,079 around planets and what that might mean 2023 01:19:33,330 --> 01:19:31,059 if we take them to represent modes of 2024 01:19:35,989 --> 01:19:33,340 consciousness and of course the Dalai 2025 01:19:40,350 --> 01:19:35,999 Lama the transhumanist agenda and the 2026 01:19:42,509 --> 01:19:40,360 2045 avatar project so I think that's 2027 01:19:44,729 --> 01:19:42,519 worth five dollars alone but you also of 2028 01:19:46,919 --> 01:19:44,739 course get the full archives a lifetime 2029 01:19:49,049 --> 01:19:46,929 form membership free downloads of all 2030 01:19:51,629 --> 01:19:49,059 that higher side music you love so much 2031 01:19:54,659 --> 01:19:51,639 and of course more episodes coming at 2032 01:19:57,449 --> 01:19:54,669 you every month we got one more episode 2033 01:19:59,310 --> 01:19:57,459 to go for August that I need to get out 2034 01:20:01,350 --> 01:19:59,320 tomorrow but it is a three-and-a-half 2035 01:20:04,379 --> 01:20:01,360 hour recording that I have to edit up 2036 01:20:06,540 --> 01:20:04,389 another long one I think that's four 2037 01:20:10,049 --> 01:20:06,550 shows this month that went over the two 2038 01:20:11,850 --> 01:20:10,059 hours so you are welcome show me some 2039 01:20:12,689 --> 01:20:11,860 love and join the Plus Club and I'm 2040 01:20:15,270 --> 01:20:12,699 getting out of here 2041 01:20:17,689 --> 01:20:15,280 your move adept occultist technology 2042 01:20:20,310 --> 01:20:17,699 conjures and Luciferian light bringers 2043 01:20:23,270 --> 01:20:20,320 your [\h__\h] 2044 01:20:32,190 --> 01:20:23,280 I got a new life you would hardly 2045 01:20:36,300 --> 01:20:32,200 recognize me I'm so glad now why do I 2046 01:20:36,670 --> 01:20:36,310 bother when you're not in the club with 2047 01:20:50,930 --> 01:20:36,680 me 2048 01:20:50,940 --> 01:20:57,340 [Music] 2049 01:21:08,589 --> 01:20:59,020 [Applause] 2050 01:21:08,599 --> 01:21:16,210 these rituals will make you 2051 01:21:36,130 --> 01:21:18,410 [Music] 2052 01:21:50,430 --> 01:21:37,890 [Applause] 2053 01:21:50,440 --> 01:22:01,490 [Music] 2054 01:22:01,500 --> 01:22:05,000 [Applause] 2055 01:22:27,170 --> 01:22:23,460 [Music] 2056 01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:27,180 [Applause] 2057 01:22:32,620 --> 01:22:31,890 [Music] 2058 01:22:33,950 --> 01:22:32,630 [Applause] 2059 01:22:35,380 --> 01:22:33,960 [Music] 2060 01:22:37,440 --> 01:22:35,390 [Applause] 2061 01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:37,450 [Music]